[EM4] Los Angeles Mod bugs, issues and problems

[nfspdf]

Really bad traffic jams .You can't move anywere .You can't get anywere .I have tryed eveything from cops moving traffic to dirbar on cop cars dude it is really bad .Eather downsize on the cars and truck on the streets our do something .But all I can say about the mod is sweet .All the new cars .Wow .What a great job now that feals like US.Great work .

[randomperson139]

Cars cause traffic james when they are redirected. If you don't want traffic jams then don't redirect traffic

[Xplorer4x4]

I have no major traffic problems caused by redirecting. Hell I rarley have traffic issues ever so im totally lost as to how people are still having such major issues with the second patch.

[Guest madforce]

I have no major traffic problems caused by redirecting. Hell I rarley have traffic issues ever so im totally lost as to how people are still having such major issues with the second patch.

I don't have major issues, but once in awhile cars get 'hung'. If gone unnoticed, it can be problematic. I think most are getting in a situation where they have redirected multiple paths and they cross and hang, then they become unresponsive and you end up in viscous cycle of clearing that one, and in the time it took you to clear it, another jam occurred farther back up the map. I had 'hangups', but havn't had the immovable issue which largely occurs from redirecting on the two main highways/roadways.

I took a shot of where the hangups tend to occur, and the most problematic spot if you redirect liberally, especially off the main roadways where you can end up with a immovable jam. It doesn't always occur, but certain vehicles especially increase the chances, namely the wider/longer one.

Car 10 path by the PD...

Car09 path at main intersection

Both can be corrected by narrowing these paths to three lane width so the return path ends up in the left lane, instead of the far right.

Also, I'd like to note that I remove the metro bus, and the large box trucks. The Transport and twinkle trucks. Those vehicles have a higher tendancy to hang, even in other spots on the map when traffic meet, the smaller normal sized cars tend to be able to clear themselves. Once I make those changes, I rarely have issues even with fairly liberal redirecting. You may want to add a light or two in some certain spots, you just have to be very mindful of timing so that the light keeps up with incoming outgoing flow in my experience.

[Guest madforce]

Really bad traffic jams .You can't move anywere .You can't get anywere .I have tryed eveything from cops moving traffic to dirbar on cop cars dude it is really bad .Eather downsize on the cars and truck on the streets our do something .But all I can say about the mod is sweet .All the new cars .Wow .What a great job now that feals like US.Great work .

Just make sure you applied Patch 2, which eliminates many of the issues, the remaining are some we are discussing here which you may be able to edit or see if it's important enough to warrant an official fix in another patch down the road.

Cars cause traffic james when they are redirected. If you don't want traffic jams then don't redirect traffic

I'm getting so sick of this answer every time someone speaks of traffic issues. Leave the response to those who have worked around the issue to help those that it's really bothering. If it doesn't bother you, then fine, you don't have to redirect, but the issues most describe have a simple work around that would enable them to largely not have to worry as much when using the redirect function.

I personally, and I'm sure others would much prefer to get it working, so we can keep traffic flowing. In many locations if you have an incident, and don't redirect you can seriously inhibit the flow on other major roads which will impede other emergency vehicles from getting to and from the scene timely or put civilian vehicles in harms way (fire) and then you start a wonderful chain reaction of exploding cars and impede your ability to properly get to/deal with the next call.

[Guest madforce]

Haven't noticed any problems at all with the la bridge, I never even have a reason to send a unit onto the bridge, the farthest is the wreck right before the bridge and any traffic redirection occurs at the traffic signal after vehicles cross the bridge.

The only ongoing traffic issues that don't involve patrolling cars are the ones we talked about and provided screenshots earlier in the other thread, http://forum.emergency-planet.com/index.php?showtopic=8639, adjusting those paths stop the improper turns and limit potential 'hangups. So much I actually increase traffic and have added additional paths to increase the 'life' and traffic flow especially on the main roadways.

[puppysboy222]

The "Oil Rig Fire" mission is too hard to get a 100% with Ver. 1.9

I think back in Ver. 1.5 it was easier some how... One problem is getting to tech guy on the Rid. Because no tech copter.

Their has to be some kind of engineer that can be deploy by copter. Not sure LAFD has a engineer that trained as a Fireman too.

Yeah. The USCG Heliopter is the TECH helicopter. The USCG dude inside is like an engineer,

[pyrothijs]

Ok there are Traffic Jams, and it gets really annoying when you try to redirect a car, but it wont move. Just stays there. This happens every now and then and it might be a bug.

I know its not a multiplayer bug, because I tried the L.A map in freeplay and eventually when theres a jam and you try to redirect a certain car it wont turn around just stays there. Nothings blocking it, its just being stubborn. Uaually to fix it I have to move my cop car, let 3 cars pas, then the cars will start to redirect.

Any fixes for this?

Merged topic with bug report topic from this topic on

[Xplorer4x4]

I don't have major issues, but once in awhile cars get 'hung'. If gone unnoticed, it can be problematic.

Indeed, every great once in awhile I do have a small hang up. The only one i tend to have a major problem with is when I have the MVA at the exit of the police station parking lot.

I'm getting so sick of this answer every time someone speaks of traffic issues. Leave the response to those who have worked around the issue to help those that it's really bothering. If it doesn't bother you, then fine, you don't have to redirect, but the issues most describe have a simple work around that would enable them to largely not have to worry as much when using the redirect function.

I personally, and I'm sure others would much prefer to get it working, so we can keep traffic flowing. In many locations if you have an incident, and don't redirect you can seriously inhibit the flow on other major roads which will impede other emergency vehicles from getting to and from the scene timely or put civilian vehicles in harms way (fire) and then you start a wonderful chain reaction of exploding cars and impede your ability to properly get to/deal with the next call.

THANK YOU! Glad to see im not the only one who is sick of this answer. The redirect command is vital for traffic flow at times and "not redirecting" simply isnt an option unless you want co cause a mess. Furthermore, in my mind this theory was already debunked because one time I had just started game. Dispatched bomb squad to the bomb on the far right side of the map. Set up bomb squad outside the blast area, and had Engine 7 staged just to be on the safe side. Engine 7 redirected very little traffic since its a low traffic area anyways. The redirected traffic followed a path all the way off the map.

Next up was the MVA behind the police station. LAPD is on scene almost immediately to redirect traffic, but traffic would not redirect. Some one please explain to me why vehicles that have never been redirected, can be the root of the problem when the vehicles that are now stuck were never redirected.

You could possibly argue that the vehicles exited the map, respawned and happen to be the ones im having trouble redirecting. If it werent for the fact the vehicles that fail to redirect are not the same model vehicles that were previously redirected, I might find that to be a possibility.

In closing, yes you cant redirect previously redirected vehicles, but the problem goes beyond that.

[Guest madforce]

Next up was the MVA behind the police station. LAPD is on scene almost immediately to redirect traffic, but traffic would not redirect. Some one please explain to me why vehicles that have never been redirected, can be the root of the problem when the vehicles that are now stuck were never redirected.

You could possibly argue that the vehicles exited the map, respawned and happen to be the ones im having trouble redirecting. If it werent for the fact the vehicles that fail to redirect are not the same model vehicles that were previously redirected, I might find that to be a possibility.

In closing, yes you cant redirect previously redirected vehicles, but the problem goes beyond that.

Hrm, Is it that they are 'pinned' so to speak between objects and the car can't find it's way out via AI? I've had a pedestrian pin a patrol car between a wall and a telephone pole and the ped wouldn't move so I had to send another unit to arrest him, just to get the unit out. lol

I haven't had a truly stuck car in awhile, and that accident doesn't stick out to me as a problem I've had...How close is the car to the wreckage? Is it possible a portion of the car is inside an accident? I'll keep an eye out for that one next time it comes around. There are a couple accidents I don't bother redirecting much cause I can get all units to the scene and out before the first victim arrives at the hospital.

[Guest Pohjoismaa]

Bug report: When i install a LA mod, i can play LA mod missions AND normal missions, but when i play that game 2nd time and more, i cant play LA mod missions..

[Guest stef@n]

Could someone tell me how to load the LA Mod map in the Editor, so I can try to fix the trafic problem by myself so I can redirect again? And please tell me how to edit the 'lines' which a car followes ingame.

If I can get it to work then I'll tell you guys what I did

[pyrothijs]

Could someone tell me how to load the LA Mod map in the Editor, so I can try to fix the trafic problem by myself so I can redirect again? And please tell me how to edit the 'lines' which a car followes ingame.

If I can get it to work then I'll tell you guys what I did

Modifications --> load modification --> LA MOD

AFter it has loaded choose map --> load map --> freeplay.dds

[Guest madforce]

Modifications --> load modification --> LA MOD

AFter it has loaded choose map --> load map --> freeplay.dds

freeplay.e4m

[pyrothijs]

freeplay.e4m

You are of course 100% correct

[Xplorer4x4]

Hrm, Is it that they are 'pinned' so to speak between objects and the car can't find it's way out via AI? I've had a pedestrian pin a patrol car between a wall and a telephone pole and the ped wouldn't move so I had to send another unit to arrest him, just to get the unit out. lol

I haven't had a truly stuck car in awhile, and that accident doesn't stick out to me as a problem I've had...How close is the car to the wreckage? Is it possible a portion of the car is inside an accident? I'll keep an eye out for that one next time it comes around. There are a couple accidents I don't bother redirecting much cause I can get all units to the scene and out before the first victim arrives at the hospital.

There not pinned. Theres a line of 3-8 vehicles depending on how quickly I get it cleaned up and the cars are not pinned because of a pedestrian or bird or anything like that. All vehicles that are backed up here refuse to be redirected weather I try the first vehicle,second,third,etc. Even once the wreckage is all clear they refuse to budge so I send an UMPC with 4 officers out, 2 with guns drawn and 2 with extinguishers. Say I blow up the third vehicle, and tow it off, the fourth vehicle is still not budding. The only way to redirect traffic here is to have an officer standing by where that street intersects the 4 lane avenue so that you can redirect vehicles before they get the turn completed.

Thats my only major traffic problem now. On occasion a patrol car gets stuck but usually the only one that gets stuck is at the intersection just south of the port on the downhill slope and once i move the patrol car out of the way everything fine. I can redirect traffic any where on the map with no problem. I even found if you position officers just right you can some times redirect only one lane of traffic.

Bug report: When i install a LA mod, i can play LA mod missions AND normal missions, but when i play that game 2nd time and more, i cant play LA mod missions..

I believe this was discussed in the first post. You should check the first post before reporting bugs.

[Stan]

I am currently working on some fixes, here a list:

- The second spot where you can put the boat to water will be fixed

- Unredirectable vehicles (that where not redirected yet) will be fixed

After playing over 3 hours in a row I noticed that traffic pileups happen:

- On some intersections missing a traffic light if there is already a pileup on that intersection because the cars will then all get stuck togheter

- Because stupid people walking along the road are just standing on the road

[Guest altoproxima]

I am currently working on some fixes, here a list:

- The second spot where you can put the boat to water will be fixed

- Unredirectable vehicles (that where not redirected yet) will be fixed

After playing over 3 hours in a row I noticed that traffic pileups happen:

- On some intersections missing a traffic light if there is already a pileup on that intersection because the cars will then all get stuck togheter

- Because stupid people walking along the road are just standing on the road

@Stan : I have placed new traffic lights on intersections that have problems (still a few more to check)

if you want I can send you the freeplay map I have adjusted.

[Stan]

I would have to redo all the fixes on your version. Since it are only some particular intersections that got my attention I will addition those myself as it consists only of some minutes of work.

[Guest altoproxima]

I would have to redo all the fixes on your version. Since it are only some particular intersections that got my attention I will addition those myself as it consists only of some minutes of work.

Yes I know, I've placed traffic lights on 3 intersections. One is at the opera/concert/conference center (round building) One on the east side of the map, where you have the train tracks on the left, there is a road that comes in at a sharp angle. Umm ... crap I forgot where i have put the 3rd. I'll check later on tonight.

[Stan]

A little higher about facing to the opera building you mentioned?

That are my two spots, the spot I didn't check at yet is at the industry, the road comming down that you mentioned, I thought it was only used by patroling cars?

[Hoppah]

Yes I know, I've placed traffic lights on 3 intersections. One is at the opera/concert/conference center (round building) One on the east side of the map, where you have the train tracks on the left, there is a road that comes in at a sharp angle. Umm ... crap I forgot where i have put the 3rd. I'll check later on tonight.

Is it possible you can make and post pics of the locations of the added traffic lights?

[Xplorer4x4]

That are my two spots, the spot I didn't check at yet is at the industry, the road comming down that you mentioned, I thought it was only used by patroling cars?

It is i think but the patrol cars some times get stuck crossing the street there.

[Guest mrpolice1996]

It is i think but the patrol cars some times get stuck crossing the street there.

A lot of my patrols get stuck around the map. But it is easy to get them moving again.

[Guest altoproxima]

Is it possible you can make and post pics of the locations of the added traffic lights?

Yes I will do that right away