theocd Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Hi,(Firstly I would like to apologise if this has been covered elsewhere but I have checked under 'things that are not possible' and have searched 'baton', 'truncheon' and 'ASP' and got no return other than general chit-chat so here goes)I have been wondering for a while whether it is possible for a baton to be put in the game. The reason for this is coming from England, very few of our cops carry firearms whereas all of them carry an ASP or similar. Would it be possible for a baton to be used in game to subdue a criminal? For example, when you fight a criminal for too long they eventually collapse to the floor needing medical attention, with a baton in game could this be achieved instantly? The scene would go something like this. Select officer, draw baton, subdue, (cop runs over and THWACK), one crim needing an ambulance.Does anyone believe this is possible? If so could someone explain in laymans terms?Many thanks,The OCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 In theory you could make a weapon that when you tell an officer to use it, a few swings could put the criminal in an incapacitated state, but I thiink that it would be better to make one so that not only can you subdue one, but possibly make a criminal surrender easier, and get arrested without much of a fight, because ehre, a few swings with a baton, and they give up. I think this would make a nice little change to gameplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocd Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 The problem is getting it in game. I have no clue on how to make things like this work!!! I understand basic modding concepts but surely this would be hugely complex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I would like to have this item for Tokyo Mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson139 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 In theory you could make a weapon that when you tell an officer to use it, a few swings could put the criminal in an incapacitated state, but I thiink that it would be better to make one so that not only can you subdue one, but possibly make a criminal surrender easier, and get arrested without much of a fight, because ehre, a few swings with a baton, and they give up.Can't you make the criminal surrender by drawing the pistol and trying to arrest them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocd Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Can't you make the criminal surrender by drawing the pistol and trying to arrest them?Yes, but I believe that is Hoppah's armed arrest script. And, as I've already mentioned, being from England, not many of our officers carry firearms. I am asking whether it is possible to script and unarmed alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson139 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Yes, but I believe that is Hoppah's armed arrest script. Ok. I thought it was an emergency 4 script, not an la mod scriptAnd, as I've already mentioned, being from England, not many of our officers carry firearmsI'm from England as well so I know that not many officers carry firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Baton VS Gun.............Gun wins!Have you ever heard a Cop with an Baton going after a guy with a gun?I'm not sure how a armed arrest script with a baton would work?If a cop has a baton then the guy you trying to arrest should have a knife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocd Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Baton VS Gun.............Gun wins!Have you ever heard a Cop with an Baton going after a guy with a gun?I'm not sure how a armed arrest script with a baton would work?If a cop has a baton then the guy you trying to arrest should have a knife?I have seen many a British Bobby with their Trusty Truncheon running after a homicidal maniac armed with a gun. (Shortly before ducking behind a wall and calling for an ARV. But we don't mention that bit)You are totally right in the scripting of it would be difficult, I have no experience of scripting, never understood it and don't know where to start. Ideally the suspect would have a knife, iron bar or similar but I haven't seen any in game.If anyone would like to take the project on and script it, I don't care, I only created the idea, the scripter could take full credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I am not totally sure but I think armed civilians in freeplay, which is where I am guessing this idea would mainly want to be used, are randomized on if they are armed or not, when they are to be armed they have a pistol... So I think you'd have to basically replace the gun (originally in the game in the first place) in order for it to not be present. I am not fully certain about this, but I believe that is the only possible way this event could work in freeplay to where your officer was not in a firefight without a pistol being used against him. If this is the case I am not sure if this is even possible to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Can't you make the criminal surrender by drawing the pistol and trying to arrest them?Some times. Some times you have to shoot them a few times then you can arrest them and other times I had no choice but to shoot untill they were down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 what if you made a new melee weapon that would be like fighting for an officer, but it would be stronger, and the officer would take less damage from it...Like he runs up, with baton out, and swings. then after one or two the suspect quits the fight and is cuffed, or if he is particuarly stubborn, then he has to get bet a few times. If all else fails, he eventually drops to the ground. Kinda like a normal fight now, but only, the officer can do more damage in less time, so it is just like sped up, but the officer doesn't take as much damage, so only one side is sped up..make any sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocd Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 what if you made a new melee weapon that would be like fighting for an officer, but it would be stronger, and the officer would take less damage from it...Like he runs up, with baton out, and swings. then after one or two the suspect quits the fight and is cuffed, or if he is particuarly stubborn, then he has to get bet a few times. If all else fails, he eventually drops to the ground. Kinda like a normal fight now, but only, the officer can do more damage in less time, so it is just like sped up, but the officer doesn't take as much damage, so only one side is sped up..make any sense?Makes sense but the problem is getting it to work in game. If anyone has any ideas on how to make it work in game please share in laymans terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggcarton Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 what about a taser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick the greek Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 MickeyPI wrote in the suggestions thread:A Stun Gun/Taser:There is current no known way to temporarilly stun a suspect other than the hard-coded flashbang effect, which does not function like a hand held weapon. We currently do not know a way around this issue, or if it is even possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 This one person bring this up to me... That he will script a baton if someone makes a model for it.So I don't know if a lie or not? If you gave the person a model of a baton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
