jamnj88 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 You would NEVER see the jaws on a USFS truck, they don't even fight structural fires. In some of the larger parks (Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Yosemite etc) the NPS provides structural fire protection and rescue. In most of the smaller parks the "gateway communities" or the small communities around the park provide structural fire and rescue. If you wanted to make this like a big park where the NPS does extrication you might want to model the units on the ones below.Type -1 Fire Engine, in most parks this would carry MVA extrication equipment (jaws) as well as structural firefighting equipment.This is the Rescue unit at Grand Canyon National Park, if you wanted a specialized NPS units to carry the Jaws this would be the one, it also carries other extrication and rescue equipment. I little bit of information on NPS fire and aviation can be found here http://www.nps.gov/fire/The comment you made is not entirely true. My buddy is a USFS firefighter and I went to visit him. I got a truck tour and there were in fact Jaws on his brush engines for use during scenes that require extrication. I asked him about them and he said they are the first due units for vehicle accidents within the national forests so therefore they will do extrication if needed. An interesting fact I learned about the NPS service is that there are only 22 national park engine companies throughout the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred03 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 The comment you made is not entirely true. My buddy is a USFS firefighter and I went to visit him. I got a truck tour and there were in fact Jaws on his brush engines for use during scenes that require extrication. I asked him about them and he said they are the first due units for vehicle accidents within the national forests so therefore they will do extrication if needed. An interesting fact I learned about the NPS service is that there are only 22 national park engine companies throughout the USAhuh, cool. I didn't know the USFS did anything of the sort but I suppose it makes sense in extremely rural areas. I will concede that I am not as familiar with USFS operations as I am with NPS operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnj88 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Yea I found it to be very interesting at some of the stuff they carried on the brush engines and all. I didn't know anything about the NPS fire department side until I started following a guy who is a firefighter at the statue of liberty on instagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone1fire Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 This mod is looking amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred03 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Yea I found it to be very interesting at some of the stuff they carried on the brush engines and all. I didn't know anything about the NPS fire department side until I started following a guy who is a firefighter at the statue of liberty on instagram.Statue of Liberty has some "unique" equipment and procedures, I do love their dorky little rig though, its so cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Lol. It looks so small but at the same time so tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastyBill88 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Lol. It looks so small but at the same time so thoughf (I think thats how you spell thoughf)You mean tough? The F is silence lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace612 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 A little updateHere's an image of some map scenery(credits - that Ford pickup - itchboy. Do I even need to write that down under every image, or could I just mention it in the first post/for the new models included?)A substantial update for the map tetxture/layout is coming (no worries, it will not by any chance change the setting or anything like that)Well, maybe couple percent of the forests will be taken down to build a road. Damn, emergency, you're so simulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Just mention it for the first time you showcase it. IF you're showcasing something else after the initial release of it, like say this forest, you're not required to credit the pickup again. That being said, if you do some more work on that pickup and decide to showcase it again, it'd be a good idea to credit itch again, to avoid confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD23DER Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 One more thing... I just re-read the first post. Is there going to be a hospital on map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace612 Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 One more thing... I just re-read the first post. Is there going to be a hospital on map?More of a medical center thing, but this one is supposed to support the NP, so it'll be a bit more well-equipped than, for example, the Monida Pass one. I'm not talking a city-large ambo service, but more than one rig, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Thats great to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace612 Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 - Updated road texture- Updated 2013 Charger texture to match 2013 Charger livery- Added a high-vidibility/traffic vest for state troopersmodels by itchboy and LA Mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone1fire Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 This mod is looking great! I really love that the map is almost 75% of forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rescue_nerd Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Yeah, nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapdlafd Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 This mod is looking great! I really love that the map is almost 75% of forestImagine someone light it up... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Imagine someone light it up... lolOMG. I guess you would have to call like 50 air tankers just to put out all the fires. I hate those type of calls. LOLAlso will forest fires be frequent in this mod or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace612 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 OMG. I guess you would have to call like 50 air tankers just to put out all the fires. I hate those type of calls. LOLAlso will forest fires be frequent in this mod or not?Well, any fire will have a potential of becoming a forest fire very fast, so you gonna need some good response times. I may tune down the possibility of brush fires a little bit, as any of them would likely become one of these "usual callout turned epic" situations. But yeah, they'll be quite frequent.Don't worry, though, mod is planned to include a variety of tools, useful to improve your response times - an FD chopper, though offmap one, that will be able to rappel firefighters (probably they will have extinguishers auto equipped on rappelling), ATVs with minimum equipment, but able to get to the fire's epicenter fast, and brush patrol trucks, which will be able to, ehm... patrol?May also buff the air tanker - shorten it's downtime a bit. If that's possible.Also, forest fire 101 - you don't put them out, you prevent their spreading.and wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD23DER Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Any chance of a bulldozer or something? Even if you just gave it the 'cut' command that would be very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace612 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Any chance of a bulldozer or something? Even if you just gave it the 'cut' command that would be very cool.I'll think about it. That's actually a good idea, but I don't know if I would be able to implement that and how hard that may be.May do some cut-out strips (pre-mapped). You know, like the ones they actually use to prevent forest fires from spreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD23DER Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 I'll think about it. That's actually a good idea, but I don't know if I would be able to implement that and how hard that may be.May do some cut-out strips (pre-mapped). You know, like the ones they actually use to prevent forest fires from spreading. I've been thinking about trying it for brush-breakers (Brush trucks that can plow down trees that we use in southeastern MA) but you would have to make it so the bulldozer could drive over the stump somewhere in the script or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred03 Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'll think about it. That's actually a good idea, but I don't know if I would be able to implement that and how hard that may be.May do some cut-out strips (pre-mapped). You know, like the ones they actually use to prevent forest fires from spreading.Those things are called "fire roads" and are access roads (much like the ones already on the map) that are not much more than a dirt track through the forest but can allow the quick access of equipment and can be widened in a hurry. Remember also that MOST forest fires are not fought with fire trucks they're fought with hand crews and that's a style of firefighting that EM4 doesn't really support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace612 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Those things are called "fire roads" and are access roads (much like the ones already on the map) that are not much more than a dirt track through the forest but can allow the quick access of equipment and can be widened in a hurry. Remember also that MOST forest fires are not fought with fire trucks they're fought with hand crews and that's a style of firefighting that EM4 doesn't really support.Well then, seems we have already taken care of the fire roads . Anyway, forest is divided into smaller bunches, and chances of fire going over from one bunch to another are pretty slim. Especially after the last map upd I made, which divides the forest a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
