Forensics Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>&"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" />More:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8172739.stmWhat do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmC-Unit Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nothing more than a big toys They won't replace real ff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter42 Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nothing more than a big toys They won't replace real ffIt's not designed to. They're designed to check cylinders of the industrial gas acetylene.This will save lives and mean the 24 hour cordon that is set up is not needed for so long.The robots are a great idea. I'm glad they have had good results with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 This not new at all! Tokyo Fire Department has 12 robots for fire fighting and rescue robot for some time.http://zoome.jp/firemovie/diary/3 <--- Newest Rescue RobotThese robots are not remodel or been reused. Built to do the job.The have them to help with earthquakes. When huge buildings might fall over and create a large search area.Also use for industrial gases or heated areas that normal fire suits can't go to.If there going to be a new type of Robotics... More likely Japan made it first or built a better one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forensics Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 http://zoome.jp/firemovie/diary/3 <--- Newest Rescue Robot That man is being eaten by a robot! It wouldn't be very good if the victim had back probelms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 It wouldn't be very good if the victim had back probelms.I real person won't act like a rag doll. The dummy was slowly and stabilize in to it. Not like it was throw into it.If a person is in danger? At a area that no person could get to them. It wise to hurt the victim just a little to save their life.In the Rules of a Rescuer is; "To save a person life... A rescuer must not create any harm to their self." If the rescue is hurt when saving another person. Then you might then save two people. Risking other people's lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami89E1234 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 lols Japanese are nerds. but they have funny gameshows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 lols Japanese are nerds. but they have funny gameshows They grow up watching Robot themed Anime shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppah Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Nothing more than a big toys They won't replace real ffThat's not what they said in the video. But they are toys, toys which save human lives.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 That London fire officer said it took 2 years to get a robots to fight fires and to get the technology? That is funny!The technology was around like least 10 years before and 2 years to get used robots. The London Fire Service must have budget problems or that their R&D guys are not that great at all.Tokyo Fire Department started developing fire robots since 1998~2002. You would think someone in another department would see these robots. And make a look alike or something like it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forensics Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The London Fire Service must have budget problemsAll of the UK is underfunded: NHS, police, schools, fire service.The government just doesn't seem to understand how important all these are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nick Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The technology was around like least 10 years before and 2 years to get used robots. The London Fire Service Brigade must have budget problems or that their R&D guys are not that great at all.The robots are from Qinetiq, a private company, not directly from LFB, so I'd imagine that accounts for some of the delays.While they seem a good idea, I'm surprised that LFB are involved in this venture, seeing as they are being told to cut costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The robots are from Qinetiq, a private company, not directly from LFB, so I'd imagine that accounts for some of the delays.While they seem a good idea, I'm surprised that LFB are involved in this venture, seeing as they are being told to cut costs.Well they did say used robots... means they are cheaper?Tokyo Fire Department's budget is like ¥255,028,000,000 Yen and that's only 3% of the city's budget. I think? (€ 1,893,837,928 / $ 2,821,418,298)Don't know how much they use to buy robots?I guess that's why research pays off in Japan... Those Robotic Companies means business with SCIENCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Taylor Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 IMO, they're just big pieces of useless metal unless it's a giant disaster. I couldn't see them going into a regular building and helping save people. Humans are MUCH more useful, and faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 IMO, they're just big pieces of useless metal unless it's a giant disaster. I couldn't see them going into a regular building and helping save people. Humans are MUCH more useful, and faster.Then, I'll ask you to be the first one to look for survivors in a partly collapse mall from an earthquake. With the only tools... that are a Helmet, Axe, Rope and a Jack.We have reports... That we may get after shocks and the building frames can't take any more hits.Still want to go in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Taylor Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I said in giant disasters it'd be useful. Is English your first language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I said in giant disasters it'd be useful.They make robots different sizes. A big robot is not a replacement for going inside a building. Yet even a small disasters it could be used as a crane.People can mistake reading dude. Don't have a cow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jab16 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I guess it may be useful in a biochemical attack or big fire, but they are kinda slow and don't move that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I think the sole purpose is not to replace in all situations but just in those where it's too dangerous to enter at all, ie chemical hazards, structural instability etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Rasseru Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 They may one day have small and fast scout robots. For searching survivors in mass city ruins. That could able to detect life signs.So trained rescuers don't have to be every where in a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PVFD Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Then, I'll ask you to be the first one to look for survivors in a partly collapse mall from an earthquake. With the only tools... that are a Helmet, Axe, Rope and a Jack.We have reports... That we may get after shocks and the building frames can't take any more hits.Still want to go in?yeah i doanything could happen doesnt mean it will....a house fire could flash over or backdraft...key word is COULD...no one ever said there wasnt risk in saving lives....and the person that u replied to said clearly that the robots are only useful in large disasters...a collapsed mall falls under large disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
