rgalante Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 The problem is that in Portugal.. that is rare xD. Only RSB Lisbon, Seixal FD ( Which are the 2 best FD'S in Portugal) and a few Fire Department's across the country have one central station and then small ones around their service area. Is one of the major problems in Portuguese Fire Protection (we have alot of issues, mainly in rural areas..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Graphic Designs Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Here in Lisbon we have a fully professional fire department that's the oldest in Portugal, known as R.S.B. Lisboa. Known for being the best FD in Portugal, for their highly trained firefighters and for record response times (in our contry). They have 5 different battalions (companies, actually) that are spread around the city. Each one of those battalions has two fire stations (a bigger station [known as Battalion HQ] and a smaller station) and all of them have atleast 1 urban pumper, 1 light pumper (with command functions, because it transports the watch manager of the station), 1 aerial ladder and one support vehicle (that's used for lockouts and to patrol). Because of the city's diversity, each battalion has vehicles according to their needs:Battalion 1 is the oldest in the city and it's the HQ of the whole FD, so it has lots of administrative and command vehicles (apart from the other "base" vehicles).Battalion 2 operates in a suburban area, so it has a brush truck in the HQ.Battalion 3 has the greatest operacional area, so the HQ has a water tanker and the station has two ambulances (operated by the FD) and an extra engine.Battalion 4 operates in an older area of the city, but they don't have any extra vehicles. Only the HQ of this battalion has two INEM (national EMS) ambulances based on their station, that are operated by the INEM itself).Battalion 5 is known as the Special Operations Battalion. The HQ has about 2 extra fire engines, 1 foam tender, 2 water tenders, 1 tanker, 1 HAZMAT truck, 1 USAR truck and some special vehicles like tow trucks, excavators and a flatbed van. The station houses regular units and 1 or 2 INEM ambulances that use the station as a base for their vehicles.Airport Division that's basically on the airport itself and doesn't make part of battalion. More like a different branch.We also have about 7 volunteer fire departments that serve as logistical support to RSB (in big fires they supply water to the fire engines and work as a backup) and mostly respond to medical emergencies. BAT 1 HQ:BAT 1 Station:BAT 2 HQ:BAT 2 Station:BAT 3 HQ:BAT 3 Station:BAT 4 HQ:BAT 4 Station:SOB HQ:SOB Station: BTW: the newest RSB pumper is in my signature. It's the one from BAT 3 HQ. BAT 1 and SOB also got the same vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM17 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 In scotland we have it more similar to the states with multiple fire stations spread out across a city, with no more than two Rescue Pumps and one special unit in any given station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickm28 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 In my local "town" (pop. of 7,102 year round, 320,000-345,000 on summer weekends), there are 5 fire stations: * = Station Staffed Year Round** = Station Staffed In The Summer Season*** = Station Never Staffed (Staffed By Volunteers (Or Career In The Case Of Fireboat 1) When Necessary). ---Station 1 (Headquarters)*---Engine 1Engine 1-1Tower 1Heavy Rescue 1Paramedic 1Paramedic 1-1Gator 1Gator 2Water Rescue 1Boat 2Utility 714Utility 728& A Rescue Training Trailer ---Boat Dock***---Fireboat 1--- Station 2**---Engine 2Paramedic 2Paramedic 2-1 ---Station 3*---Engine 3Tower 3Paramedic 3Paramedic 3-1---Station 4*---Engine 4Paramedic 4Paramedic 4-1--- Station 5***---Engine 5Engine/ Tanker 5Tower 5Heavy Rescue 5Tanker 5Paramedic 5Brush 5Canteen 725Boat 5Utility 710Utility 728& A Trailer With Extra Foam& An Antique Engine& A Fire Prevention Trailer& 2 Special Operations Trailers The Medevac Comes From The Nearest Available State Police Agency. Ambulances are often moved from station to station as units become unavailable. The hospital is located in a neighboring town, so units have to fight traffic when returning into town. Mutual Aid is provided by neigboring companies. The Duty Captain patrols in a suburban, and act similarly to how a battalion would in a larger city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCERT1 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Here's the quick run down on my whole county (just to show some variation). We have 15 volunteer and 2 paid (forestry) fire stations for 982 sq mi, and a population of about 32,500.County Seat -Volunteer Large Town- Volunteer Small Town/Rural-Volunteer Small Town Volunteer7/8 hydrant area (serves about 13,000) 1/2 hydrant area (serves about 2,300) 1/4 hydrant area (serves around 800) 1/2 hydrant area (serves about 600) 4 Engines 2 Engines (1 reserve) 2 Engines 2 Engines 1 Tower 1 Engine/Tanker 1 Tanker 1 Tanker 1 Rescue 1 Tower 1 Rescue 1 Brush Unit1 Hazmat (with 2 support trailers) 1 Brush 1 Brush 1 Ambulance1 Brush 1 Utility 1 ATV1 Boat 1 Dive Trailer 1 Boat1 Dive unit 1 Ambulance 1 Dive Unit1 Utility *1 staffed county ALS ambulance* 1 Ambulance*2 staffed county ALS Ambulances* Small Town/Rural- Volunteer Rural w/ villages-Volunteer Village/ Rural- Volunteer Rural- Volunteer1/4 hydrant area (serves about 2,000) No hydrants (serves around 300) No hydrants (serves about 1,000) No hydrants (serves about 200) 1 Engine 1 Engine 1 Engine 1 Engine 1 Engine/Tanker 1 Rescue/Engine 2 Tankers 1 Tanker1 Tanker 1 Tanker 2 Brush Units 1 Brush unit 1 Rescue ( not in service yet) 1 Brush Unit (getting a 2nd again) 1 ATV 1 Brush Unit 1 Utility 1 Boat 1 Boat 1 Ambulance 1 EMS chase unit *1 staffed county ALS ambulance* Rural- Volunteer Small Village-Volunteer Island Village-Volunteer Village /Rural-VolunteerNo hydrants (serves about 600) No hydrants (serves about 600) No hydrants (serves about 430) No hydrants (serves about 500)1 Engine 1 Engine 1 Engine 1 Rescue/Engine1 Engine/Tanker 1 Rescue/Engine 1 ATV 1 Ladder1 Tanker 1 Tanker 1 Brush 1 Tanker1 Utility 1 Nurse Tanker (carries 6000 gallons) 1 Utility 1 Brush1 Brush Unit 1 Brush Unit 1 ATV1 Boat 1 ATV 1 Boat1 ATV 2 Boats *1 county staffed ALS*1 Ambulance Rural w/Major Highway-Volunteer Island Village-Volunteer Small Island- Volunteer USFWS Fire Service State ForestryNo hydrants (serves about 2,700) No hydrants (serves about 260) No hydrants (serves about 75) Protects Wildlife Refuge Responds as needed1 Rescue/Engine 1 Rescue/Engine 1 Engine/Tanker 3 Type III engines 1 Type II Engine2 Engines 1 Tanker 1 Tanker 1 Tanker 1 Bulldozer1 Tanker 1 Brush Unit 1 Brush Unit 3 Large All-Terrain Units 1 Marshmaster1 Nurse Tanker 1 ATV 1 EMS responder car 1 Bulldozer w/ transport1 Brush Unit 1 Boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Graphic Designs Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I thought this topic was only about non-north american fire departments... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCERT1 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I thought this topic was only about non-american fire departments... It has kind of devolved into more of conversation about how different departments are everywhere, there's just no standard department make up in any country. People get very accustomed to how things are where they live, and accept them as sort of standard. Having lived in a few different locations it's just amazing how different they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM17 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong but do some American departments run with three members on a unit?Over here the minimum for the first arriving is 5 and the second 4, and if they are under that staffing level whether they are volunteer or career they aren't allowed to respond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novius Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 There is a combination department in my area that staffs two units with 3 and supplements with part paid. Because there are 6 total members arriving on scene, they still satisfy the 2 in 2 out. Should the units be at separate calls, they are supposed to only do exterior attack until others arrive.The major city (11 engines, 5 ladders) has a couple engines staffed with 2 and 3. It's all about meeting the requirements for dispatch to on scene time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM17 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 That'd never in a million years be allowed over here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novius Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think it's a cheap way to bend the rules, but no one goes in without proper support. My department for example will have 4-5 engines, a ladder and a heavy rescue each with 4-6 firefighters as our structure fire assignment. Add in various officers who arrive POV, and mutual aid depending on the duration and severity of the call, and a lawn can almost feel crowded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred03 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong but do some American departments run with three members on a unit?Over here the minimum for the first arriving is 5 and the second 4, and if they are under that staffing level whether they are volunteer or career they aren't allowed to respondIn my volly department we roll with whoever shows up, last vehicle fire only 2 people responded and one took the pumper and one POV. Of course it was a motorcycle fire so the guy with the pumper idled it up and sprayed down what was left of the cycle while the other checked the driver, I fear for what would have happened if it had been a bigger incident though but that's the peril of a volunteer department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM17 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 We have 15 guys at the scene of a house fire with people trapped or ten FF's when there's not so it's a very diffrent system, but we generally have more protocols such as BA entry control etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woutske Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Here in Almere, Holland; we have three stations. I don't know all the facts but as stated on the website (https://www.brandweer.nl/flevoland/organisatie/posten-flevoland/posten-almere/) we have 130 km2 of area, 195.000 inhabitants and a total of 146 firemen (90 volunteer). Average amount of dispatches per year is 1793. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmergencyFan97 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Here at my fire department, we have a single station. We're a rural department consisting of mostly farmland and houses, plus we have a single asphalt plant in the district. Our station has seven bays. We have the following units: Engine 13-1 (1970s engine, second-due to structure fires, first-due to vehicle fires)Engine 13-2 (2012-ish engine, first-due to structure fires and brush fires)Tanker 3Tanker 4Squad 13 (early 2000s GMC pickup with a skid unit mounted in the bed. 4 airpacks in cab.)Truck 13 (1980s minipumper/brush truck. Few hundred feet of hose, some minor tools. Last-out to any call unless we can't fit 13-1 or 13-2 down the driveway, then this vehicle becomes first-in) We have zero capabilities other than firefighting. No first responder, no type of rescue, no extrication capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred03 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Oh well if this topic has diverted into show and tell I guess I'll join in. My department has:1 Pumper (with extrication equipment)1 Tanker1 Brush TruckEMRs operate out of their POVs due to long ambulance response time.We did have another pumper and a rescue (mini-pumper) but they were sold as the department decided that it wasn't worth the effort to maintain them. We protect a town of about 600 and the surrounding area and have about 14 active volunteers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvaVPK Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Our stations in municipality Station 80 (Main station) Battalion 38Engine 801Engine 8012Tanker 803Men carrier/First aid responder 807Men carrier 8072Fire inspector car 809Boat 808Boat 8082Snowmobile 8091Snowmobile 8092Major accident cartHeavy rescue cartHovercraft Station 81 Engine 811Boat 818Smaller hovercraft Station 82 Engine 821Men carrier/first responer 827Men carrier 8272Snowmobile 8291Snowmobile 8292 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmergencyFan97 Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I am extremely happy to announce that my department is in the process of getting a set of extrication tools, making us able to perform our own extrication, without relying on County EMS and mutual aid! The tool will be placed on Engine 13-1. See the last post on the last page for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
