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I have a video for a Thunder Siren, which is the same kind of siren used on at least some of the MPPD vehicles. There's Wail, Yelp, Thunder, and Hi Lo.

3 minutes ago, Sangmi said:

You know, that was probably a good step one, but I couldn't find a good email for them. 

Oh, there's one that does work. mhphqcontact@mt.gov. Hope it works for you, cuz it does for me.

On 5/14/2024 at 3:39 PM, Sangmi said:

The more we read into this, the more I start to think that Montana lawmakers never anticipated on anyone looking into the statute this deeply! haha. 

That's very interesting. I wonder if the definition maybe changes unofficially depending on the warning system configuration of a given vehicle. 

I am literally emailing the Montana Highway Patrol right now to see if POVs really do count as emergency vehicles, under MCA 61-8-102 (2)(a). @Sangmi

1 hour ago, mcflame1 said:

It is in the fictional state of Fullerton I believe. Look at what the original developers said in the original Northview South County forum post.

Oh, alright. Thanks for answering, because I was thinking it was California, considered some vehicles in the mod have a steady burn red at the front, particularly the police vehicles.

From the official MHP website

From Wikipedia

@itchboy

@mcflame1Hello, do you know which state is Northview South County in, if there was any thought into it? Just curious

On 4/16/2024 at 9:03 PM, itchboy said:

That's cool but you're in the wrong thread, this is the New York thread.

Feel free to repost this back in the LA thread.

Sadly the tactical medic did not exist in the 90s.

The unmarked LAFD tactical medic car could be used in LA Nostalgia for arson investigators, or even higher ranking officers that can outrank the Battalion Chief. Ik, wrong thread, but it's at least something to think about.

1 hour ago, Sangmi said:

The more we read into this, the more I start to think that Montana lawmakers never anticipated on anyone looking into the statute this deeply! haha. 

That's very interesting. I wonder if the definition maybe changes unofficially depending on the warning system configuration of a given vehicle. 

In the video above, he said he had to go through Montana DOJ, the sheriff of his county, and the fire chief of his department to get his vehicle designated as an emergency vehicle.

1 hour ago, Sangmi said:

The more we read into this, the more I start to think that Montana lawmakers never anticipated on anyone looking into the statute this deeply! haha. 

That's very interesting. I wonder if the definition maybe changes unofficially depending on the warning system configuration of a given vehicle. 

This is why I love my province's rules. I'm from Saskatchewan, and we recognize POVs of firefighters and medical responders and the like as emergency vehicles, since April 1, 2009. The reason is because some City of Estevan fireman named Travis Olver ran a red light, while going to a truck fire in his POV. Cops noticed and stopped him anyway. He was given a $220 CAD ticket, he fought it, but lost. The judge reduced it to $70.

Then Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall got the legislature together, and got the law changed. Section 238 of the Saskatchewan Traffic Safety Act says;

"The driver of an emergency vehicle may act pursuant to subsection (2) if the emergency vehicle is:

(a) used for the transportation of a peace officer in the performance of the officer’s duties;

(b) used for the transportation of a member of a fire department in response to an emergency;

(c) an ambulance used in response to an emergency;

(d) a vehicle or one of a class of vehicles designated by the board as an emergency vehicle which is used in response to an emergency; or

(e) a vehicle that: (i) is designated by a municipality in a bylaw as a vehicle that may be used as an emergency vehicle by a volunteer firefighter or first responder; and

(ii) is being used in response to an emergency and is operated by a person who meets the prescribed requirements.

On 4/28/2024 at 7:29 PM, Sangmi said:

I'm not good for much, but I do enjoy my research. I'm always happy to help solve quirky little mysteries like the ones that keep popping up in this thread. Looking through protocols is very fun to me haha. 
Without sounding too silly.. a POV that gets signed over to the state wouldn't be a POV anymore, right? 

I found more info on MCA 61-8-102 (2)(a): "Authorized emergency vehicle" means a vehicle of a governmental fire agency organized under Title 7, chapter 33, an ambulance, or an emergency vehicle designated or authorized by the department.

The department is what confuses, me so I had to go to 61-1-101.

61-1-101 (17) says: (17) "Department" means the department of justice acting directly or through its duly authorized officers or agents.

So the Montana State DOJ has the authority to designate any vehicle as an authorized emergency vehicle. Also this firefighter guy here said POVs are emergency vehicles, if approved to be as such by the Fire Chief, County Sheriff, and Montana State DOJ. Which is confusing, because he said in another video that POVs are not emergency vehicles.

On 4/30/2024 at 9:43 PM, mercurygrandmarquis1 said:

I'm speaking solely for NY BLS. Other states have a tendency for being a lot more restrictive even with signs of obvious death

I heard EMTs can't do shit without a med control doc on the phone. At least that's what Fire Department Chronicles said on YouTube.

Fun fact: Nurses in the Philippines, where I'm originally from, are the paramedics. We don't have paramedics there, so the nurses are the next best thing. We do have EMTs. Nurses and EMTs can call deaths. PNP cops can't call deaths, but PNP-SOCO (Scene of the Crime Operatives) can.

13 hours ago, Fred03 said:

A variety of "in universe" explanations:

1. Apparatus may pre-date that specific standard
2. Apparatus may be designed so that its shorter and can fit into tighter rural areas like down narrow dirt roads which required sacrificing cab size.
3. Other firefighters may be expected to arrive on other apparatus.
4. 2 people is the minimum needed to utilize a fire engine in real world (not NFPA) applications.
5. Few if any departments 100% meet everything the NFPA would like to see.

There's the NFPA standard and then there's the real world. There's few departments outside the military and major urban departments that are 100% NFPA compliant with everything. On my first volunteer department we had engines that could seat 3, 5, and 9. Rarely was every seat filled on an engine, often other firefighters would arrive on other apparatus or in POVs on-scene.

There are two jump seats at the back of the engine's cab. It's probably to simulate a VFD in a town that has absolutely nothing to upgrade their VFD.

10 hours ago, Hex_ said:

Another question: Why does the Volunteer engine only hold 2 firefighters? That doesnt make it very effective for fire fighting, and is below the standard for how many should be on an engine.

It's probably to simulate having less firefighters than ideal. Monida Pass is officially a city, legal wise, but they are more or less like a town, population wise.

58 minutes ago, Sangmi said:

I'm not good for much, but I do enjoy my research. I'm always happy to help solve quirky little mysteries like the ones that keep popping up in this thread. Looking through protocols is very fun to me haha. 
Without sounding too silly.. a POV that gets signed over to the state wouldn't be a POV anymore, right? 

Idk, you'll have to ask the guy I listed above. Thankfully, you can do so in the comments of his YT vids.

Edit: I think he said something like that, but Idk.

6 hours ago, Sangmi said:

The Montana prehospital treatment protocols state that crews can terminate resuscitation efforts in the field under the guidance of their relevant medical direction, though it doesn't specify EMT vs Paramedic. My assumption is that either EMT or Paramedic can declare a time of death depending on the level of the truck (ALS vs BLS) and fill out the appropriate post-mortem paperwork, as long as they've contacted a doctor at the hospital that was going to receive them and gotten their permission to terminate resuscitation efforts. I'll drop a link to the document here. Pages 68 and 69 refer specifically to the cessation of resuscitation by EMS crews in the field. This is the best I could find. I'm an EMT in Indiana so the protocol here is different simply because we have greater access to hospital facilities. 

Thank you very much, sir! And Ik it's a year late, but you are correct in saying that Montana POVs with reds and without sirens are not POVs. There's this person on the internet here who is a firefighter in Montana. He confirmed that unless a POV has been signed over to the state, it cannot be an emergency vehicle.

N150CZ - YouTube

8 hours ago, Hex_ said:

I literally said how I was in campaign mode.

The only 'Campaign Mission' there is, is called "Freeplay"

Sorry about that.

23 hours ago, Fred03 said:

It likely depends on the scenario. Often for EMTs or Paramedics to pronounce they're supposed to call medical control (a doctor somewhere) first. However there's exceptions for places with bad communications or if you can't reach medical control for other reason. Often the protocol is written like "for medical arrests terminate after 30 min or 3 consecutive 'No shocks advised' from an AED". And as stated above most protocols allow for CPR to not be initiated (which is tantamount to pronouncement if there's obvious signs of death such as lividity or traumatic injuries incompatible with life. The reason you're not finding it when looking it up is that such specifics aren't at the state level, they're at the individual service/medical director level.

Alright, thanks for your help, sir.

On 10/29/2014 at 5:27 PM, ENG51INE said:

 

From the people who brought you Boston Mod 2014, and Manchester, NH Mod 2014, comes an all new mod!

Welcome to the Town of Mayberry, located in Mayberry County. This isn't your "Andy Griffith Show" Mayberry. The town has grown, and so has the crime rate, building fires, and medical emergencies.

Mayberry is protected by the Town of Mayberry Volunteer Fire Department, Mayberry County Fire Protection, Mayberry County Sheriff, and Mayberry Memorial Medical Center EMS.

The town fire department consists of 3 stations manned by 1 chief and 14 paid firefighter/EMT's, and many additional volunteers who live on and off the map. The local sheriff's office is manned by 4 deputies and 4 SWAT members.

Mayberry is unlike any mod you have played before. Limited water resources, limited personnel, and rough terrain will test your abilities. If you have what it takes, then dive in!

 

 

Follow us on Facebook: https://www.emergency-planet.com/bostonmodguys

Station 1-

Car 1

Engine 1

Rescue 1

Ambulance 1

Forestry 1

Utility 1

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Station 2-

Car 2

Rescue 2

Ambulance 2

Engine 2

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Station 3-

Ambulance 3

Engine 3

Tanker 3

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Mayberry Memorial Medical Center-

Medic 1 paramedic intercept unit

ALS 1 paramedic ambulance

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Don't forget Mayfair Emergency Vehicle Manufacturers Inc.

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Cool! Which state is Mayberry County in, if you did get down that deep?

14 hours ago, mercurygrandmarquis1 said:

Yes I have declared people dead before as an EMT in certain circumstances. DNR present, obvious signs of death. I have worked jobs with medics and they can terminate CPR with medical control approval. (They have to call the doc.) On one occasion I got to call the doc myself for termination orders but that was a situation that I doubt will repeat itself

Could an EMT in Montana call a death? I'm trying to look this up but nothing so far.

On 4/20/2024 at 4:17 PM, Hex_ said:

Whenever I try to save the game in Campaign -> Freemode the game crashes. It brings up error messages. It 'Saves' but when I load the save the same error messages pop up, hitting "Retry" doesnt seem to do anything, and when it finally loads I have no UI and can select unis.

You have to use the campaign, not freeplay.

Found this on the Dillon Volunteer Fire Department page of the City of Dillon website.

On 4/14/2024 at 11:32 AM, funfun100 said:

This is amazing! How do I repair a hydrant though? I am stuck on that and I am not sure how to fix it!

Just use the TEC menu to call an Engineer, and have the engineer fix the hydrant.

On 7/31/2023 at 3:11 AM, itchboy said:

Both of these things are intentionally capped by script. Adjusting them without knowing how the code works can cause undesired behavior. 

I am still on the fence with how I will arrange things in the coming updates to the mod. Specifically, I can't have more BCSO cars until I make all the bases needed for them, which could take however long. I don't want to include repeats of existing vehicles, for sake of pumping the numbers up.

Regarding volunteer firefighters, the reason I asked for people's real life POV's was a fun way of adding more volunteer personnel to the mod so that more personnel can be playable.

Thank you for doing the research on this one. I have evidence now and I can make that judgement call with the mod. I'll have it be courtesy lights by default (as it is now) and sort out the lights/sirens commands later on.

I still don't know how I'll proceed with that because Dillon's batt chief appears to also be a POV, while Lima VFD has a dedicated vehicle. Maybe I'll keep their speed the same but remove the sirens from the 2 chief vehicles.

If you like, you can still keep the sirens on chief's POVs, and just pretend the chiefs that own them have signed them off to the state, to meet section 2a of 61-8-102. After that, they can't have much freedom as to what they can do with their state-signed POV while off duty. The state-signed POV fo a chief would then act like a fire department owned vehicle for take home purposes, not a POV.

On 2/10/2021 at 8:34 PM, itchboy said:

This was my initial concept but it proved too difficult because of how the volunteer firefighter system was made. Instead I just left it to the player to decide how to dispatch the units.

I have tweaked the volunteer script so you get between two to four personnel in the day time, and at most, six at night.
The player has the responsibility to dispatch the appropriate number of units per call.

Here's some updates to playable units. Colors have been done, and I am readying up the resources for liveries.

No volunteers are available at night, this is something I noticed in tons of Montana Mod 2.5 videos on YouTube

Here's a video about an unmarked LAFD unit being driven by an LAFD Tactical medic. Note the rear light is red and amber, instead of blue and amber.

https://youtu.be/LuWlSLwd2S0?si=51iaQ0v6Rs61ccq0&t=97