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Is there any particular reason that the LAFD Ambulances are referred to as Rescue Ambulances?

It is a throwback term that harkins back to the early days of "Rescue Companies" in the LAFD that eventually became the rescue ambulances of today. it also has a modern purpose to distinguish Rescue Ambulances, which carry firefighters with full turnouts, SCBA's and personal tools such as axes, from Private ambulances which are staffed with members with no Firefighting safety gear or training.

UPDATED 8/14/09: Ventura County Sheriff / Camarillo PD (flickr only)

The complete VCSO/Camarillo PD Open house set is up with 219 pics showcasing the best and bravest in Ventura County and the Camarillo PD/Sheriffs Office

VCSO - Camarillo PD Motor Units

VCSO - Camarillo PD Citizens Patrol

VCSO - Camarillo PD Patrol Cars

VCSO - Camarillio PD Mobile Command Post

VCSO K9

VCSO SWAT

VCSO Disaster Assistance Response Team

VCSO Search and Rescue

VCSO SAR Dive Team

VCSO Crime Scene Investigations

VCSO Mounted Enforcement Unit

VCSO Prisoner Transport Bus

VCSO Bomb Squad Command post, Quick Response Vehicle and robots.

Mike do you have any pictures of animal control, I want to release a sub mod for rabid dog callouts.

I do indeed. LA City Dept of Animal Regulation can be found here for now.

Mind you, in the city of Los Angeles, proper procedure for animal attack in progress is to respond the closest available PD unit, a full EMS response (Nearest BLS and ALS resource), and notify Animal Regulations. If the animal is attacking when the officers get there, they'll put it down immediately like you see in the game. If the animal is under control or locked up by owner, a report will be taken and the animal will be taken into custody by Dept of Animal Regulations. Remember, they don't have red lights and sirens so Animal Regs usually has a pretty long ETA to any incident, that's why PD responds to all attacks in progress and handles it as you would in the game. Animal regs would just be the one to scoop up the pup afterwards.

just make a Humane Society truck. they deal with that kind of crap

Sometimes I really have to wonder if you post everywhere just to pad your count. The Humane Society deals with adoptions and animal rescue shelters. They are a completely separate group that has no connection or relevance to the Dept of Animal Regulations or handling an attack in progress. They're the ones to call if you'd like a new puppy though. Just to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you meant the SPCA? While they do have Law Enforcement powers, they are only an investigatory body into animal abuse and cruelty, once again, not vicious animal attacks like that found in the game.

i feel sorry for the person who left there blinker on because the battery is gonna die lol.

why dosent the lapd use L rads?

Because Los Angeles is a very litigious city where every use of force device must be approved through thousands of legal hurdles. LRADs are still not accepted as safe for use by municipal departments, and LAPD still doesn't equip the majority of their officers with tasers.

The feds on the other hand are more then welcome to bring theirs out but they differed early on to LAPD Metro-SWAT to handle.

A little off topic... do we really need all of these signatures with people's download speeds and specs?

Actually very off topic because it has nothing to do with the mod. But warnings have been going out by the handful each day to all of the offenders of the Terms of Use policies regarding signatures. The moderators are working through them by the bunch, so let this be a warning to all.

Read the Rules and Follow them!

One couldn't climb the curb.

Cute robots...

Nothing worse then when a Remotec Bomb squad robot falls down and goes... boom!

Hey Mike... you watching the standoff or are you there? I'm watching it live on Fox.. 4 APC's there full of SWAT... I like their new APC I hear it's mine resistant..

Yep, been watching it since the original pursuit by LAPD and CHP. LAPD has both a Bearcat and a Bear Armored Rescue Vehicle on scene, FBI has their MRAP blocking the front. Also on scene are FBI Bomb Squad and LAPD Bomb Squad and Secret Service. Suspect was originally under investigation by the USSS for threats against the White House, they requested LAPD assistance in pulling over the vehicle, and the vehicle fled.

Is that a robot by the armoured truck? What's it doing? Any news articles on this yet?

EDIT: The lightbar on the suv looks really ugly. Looks alright on the vic though

The robot is there to provide a live video of the suspect and at one point attempted to deliver a landline phone to him to facilitate communication.

The Lightbar is actually on a UCLA PD SUV, that's not an LAPD vehicle.

While I was watching two movies on my computer I had a live feed running too. The vehicle in desert color is from the FBI (former USMC) and called a MRAP, Mine Resistant Ambush Protected. However, I turned off the live feed after more than 4 hours.

As I mentioned to Hoppah, the USMC had a program for a new Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle and solicited test vehicles from numerous companies. The ones that were not selected for purchase were donated to various federal agencies such as the FBI, DEA, and others which is why they are still in tan desert colors.

The tutorial about editing freeplay events is indeed in the Tutorials section here with instructions on how to enable and disable events, change weather, and many other factors in the xml files.

Most of the time, probably not, but if AMR is the only patient transport company in the city, like here, then I would think that AMR would be the one to to provide a mass causality unit, and being the third largest city in the state, and the largest city in the southern part of Indiana, I am a bit surprised that I dont believe one exists here. Granted there have been very few cases where one would be needed. The most deadliest event in the history of the city was a tornado a few years ago. 20 people were killed with in a one mile radius, and many more injured. Not to mention the injuries and deaths outside of this small mobile home park. It was the deadliest tornado since 1999 and produced stronger winds then Hurricane Katrina. In a case like that I can only imagine such a unit would have come in handy.

Mass Casualty Equipment/Disaster Equipment is based on State/County/City needs and no two areas are the same. if you're curious about yours, you'd have to call them and ask. All Disaster trucks and trailers for private EMS agencies are funded either by the state cache or FD's here.

Mike is there any rel advantage over the vintage style ambulances and the box style? I notice one of those pics showed one of the newer Ford E-Series cab and chassis with the vintage style compartment on the box.

Actually, before I answer this, there is nothing vintage about the van style. In fact the box style is actually much older! Originally ambulances were station wagon types like this and this. Then they went to a more suburban style like this in the early 70s and from there they ended up with something very similar to our current box shaped. The vans didn't really come until later when vans started becoming more popular in the early 80s. The style is known as vintage in the game simply because it is the vintage LAFD style. During the 80s and early 90's that was the type used by the LAFD until the move to their current apparatus.

To see a good overview of classic ambulances, go here

Now, as for your question, frankly, the best answer is contained here. Yes, I do indeed love firechief magazine!

Will we be seeing an update soon? This guide is indispensable and I would hate to see it fall by the wayside seeing as it is such a good resource.

To use a famous quote from MikeyPI and Hoppah: It is updated when it is updated.

I appreciate the fact that many people are finding it useful, but it is a very very low priority for me. The Task Force section may be completed within the next two weeks, but I honestly don't plan on working on it at all this week or weeknd.

Whoops, just saw there were a bunch of posts that I missed. Let me go back and answer them

Does any one know if AMR actually has any mass casuality units, or are these generally handled by city,state, and federal agencies?

I honestly don't know the answer to that since AMR is such a non-entity where I am anymore and a lot changed with the federal grants. I know they have a few portable trailers like these for command and control at large incidents:

They're just places to be able to sit out of the sun, do paperwork, and listen to the radio for calls.

They should also have at least one or two of the new Cali disaster trucks though. Here are some pics of McCormicks gear:

Mike is this true?

Has anyone heard of the LAPD new police vehicles?? I heard they were being compared to something like the cars that James Bond would drive. But from what I read, they are nice but not close to a bond vehicle!!It's equipped with a device just above the front bumper that will shoot darts embedded with a GPS tracker at fleeing vehicles, reducing the need for high-speed chases. When linked wirelessly to headquarters, another device allows cops to view live feeds of networked surveillance cameras from the driver's seat, once they're within a mile of a crime scene.

At any given time, the LAPD and LASD ASAP teams are testing thousands of futuristic and weird things. Nothing has been put in the field like those you've mentioned, but technology demonstrators have been looked at by both departments

Two durable-looking gadgets stashed between the front seats, set back from the docked Dell laptop computer, let officers scan the faces and fingerprints of people they detain -- and check them instantly against databases through a wireless connection.

Nope, but they are fielding some new PDA's that allow immediate fingerprinting in the field!

ONe of the coolest things is this....cameras mounted on the roof read license plates as the car is in motion, out on patrol. Plate data is coded with the time viewed and geodata, then stored on servers and checked against databases of stolen or suspect cars.

After testing on the single car, the interconnected gadgets are gradually getting installed in other LAPD vehicles; 20 will get license plate recognition cameras by year's end and two full divisions will get in-car digital video cameras trained on the back seat and front of the car, according to Cmdr. Charlie Beck, head of the department's office of operations. Officers on patrol will be able to send live video from the cameras back to their stations.

The ALPRs have been around for quite some time now, i don't know how old the article you're quoting is. You neither sourced it nor provided a link.

One of the new ALPR cars in the field. They're big and bulky compared to the LASD Version, but they've been successful

i just google'd lapd vehicles and this was on like the 4th page also found this

acourding to them Lapd already bought one

Ummm, you mind posting exactly WHERE you see that LAPD has bought one? This idea has been floating around since april and can be read about here with japlonik and others referencing it. So far, having spoken to people who are actually involved in the charger, impala and "future replacement" project, the deal for the commodore still hasn't progressed past the simple talk stage and the two test vehicles have not arrived yet, nor are they close to. With GM filing for Chapt 11 in June, two months after all of these articles were written, the general consensus is that NO foreign car/version would be bought when a domestic version could be produced instead. The technology that is in the car though has made it way to Crown Vics and other test beds, so the NSA part of the project is still ongoing. ALPR cars are fielded throughout the city on an ongoing trial that has proven very successful. But as for the Commodore ever replacing the crown vic, I just don't see it happening.

The car in the pictures was just a test that was shown at a show in Sydney, not even here in the US. Frankly, it reminds me of a lot of mods on this board, lots of hype and talk and exhuberance, but not much else.

While I would love nothing more to have Freightliner ambulances, as far as I have seen(hopefully mikesphotos will see this and correct me if I am wrong) but these are not in use in LA or LA County, so its doubtful Hoppah would approve such a sub mod as it would be unrealistic and his goal is to keep the mod realistic for the most part.

In the LA Area, the only ones who use them are the smaller departments such as Beverly hills, Burbank, Alhambra, and a couple of others. None of the Private ambulance companies contracting with LACoFD uses them, and LAFD had 2 but they're now covered in a ton of dust on a dirt lot by the shops. Just too big and unwieldy for use in LA City was the final result.

Mike, we have AMR as our one and only Ambulance service here. We have a combination of the vintage style ambulances and the newer box styles. A number of both styles are labeled, Paramedic Unit while the rest are not. I havent gotten a chance to ask any of the local medics is this is to show ALS vs BLS, but we don't have any of the Critical Care Transport units. Are these reserved for hospital to hospital transport, or is this an indication as to weather its a BLS or ALS?

Also, just wanted to take a moment to thank you for taking the time to assist all of us here, and educate us for the sake of keeping the mod realistic and our own personnel curiosity. THANKS!

You're welcome, like my sig alludes to, nothing bugs me more then misinformation, so if I can at least clear up some of the crap spouted by some, I can at least hope it'll promote people to think more, research more, and speak less about things they really don't know about. It'll be a good lesson when many of the members of this board reach high school and college.

As for your questions, I'm going to assume they have to do with the Submod being worked on. I haven't said anything in the other thread, cause much like RHIS's stuff, the authors have not mentioned one way or another if they care to be factual or realistic or if they're just doing it for the sake of doing it.

In reference to your questions though, AMR utilizes the van style for both BLS and ALS units in the Los Angeles and Ventura County areas.

Ventura Co ALS transport unit

LA County BLS Transport unit

Cedars Sinai Hospital Parking w/mix of Critical Care and BLS units

AMR Los Angeles CCT

The Critical Care Transports are for emergency or non-emergency inter-facility transport. This could be from a long term care facility to a hospital or vice versa, Hospital to another hospital with specialized equipment, or some kind of transport of that nature. They are larger then a normal box style ambulance and carry most of the gear that you would find in an ICU. They are staffed by a mix of EMT's and Paramedics, but always accompanied by either a Critical Care nurse or Respiratory Technician to perform the necessary duties outside the scope of EMT's and Paramedics. When I went through the LA EMT course, 2 of my rotations were with AMR CCT's and it's s completely different environment from a regular ambulance.

For the most part the bread and butter of AMR in Los Angeles are the IFTs (inter facility transports) due to the large number of hospitals, senior citizen facilities, and long term care homes in the Greater Los Angeles Area. For a long time,

AMR had a lock on the LACoFD BLS transport, but due to poor quality of service and lengthy response times, the contract was broken up and they were relegated to a sliver of the area they once covered for the County. They do not respond with LAFD or into LA City for emergency calls, since LAFD has its own BLS and ALS ambulances to take care of that need.

Mike

**Topic Moved since the question has nothing to do with LA Mod**

thanks.

Hey Mike, since when is LACoFD using black helmets?

You'd have to show me the picture or video you are talking about since I can think of a couple of things it could be.

Hope its not to soon for a double post, if so sorry.

Just referring back to the CB Radio/radio discussion. How long have emergency service units been using radios vs cbs, and do they pick up cb frequenceys as well? I once heard and saw an Indiana State Trooper come across a CB radio. My dad and I had our cb radio on and as we came up an off ramp we heard an odd squeal on the cb. Then you hear

Voice 1 Truck Driver:"Are you after me?"

Voice 2 ISP: "No Im after the grey crown Vvictoria behind you"

No sooner we hear this hear comes a semi, a grey crown vic(old square body style) and a Indiana State Trooper. Semi brake checks the Vic and the Vic almost runs but thinks better of it.

Then of course theres the Smokey and the Bandit movies lol, but thats movies so not sure it really applies.

Ok, lets state some specifics first:

CB as stated before is Citizens Band Radio, and like all radio bands, is governed by the FCC. It is only to be used for Commercial and Personal communications

Public Safety agencies utilize specific bands completely separate and vastly different then the way the CB system is set up.

It would be like calling an old rotary phone a Cell phone and vice versa, or even a Cell Phone a CB radio. They're similar in that they both let you talk to other people, beyond that, they have nothing in common.

CB radios work in the 27mhz range, Public safety equipment is in the 33-50mhz band for VHF-Lo, 150-174mhz for VHF-Hi, 450-470 for UHF, 470-512 for UHF-T band, 700 mhz band, and 851-869mhz.

Public safety agencies are barred from utilizing CB, Ham, FRS, and MURS bands for their routine radio traffic, and most radios are only able to receive and transmit on a single band.

So to answer your question about how long have they been using something other then CBs, well.. since the very beginning! CB radio has NEVER been utilized as a Public safety radio system, and it'd be useless to be used as such since repeaters are not allowed.

Now as mentioned before Highway patrol, State Police, and rural police will sometimes, though much rarer these days, install a CB radio or a common uniden/radio shack scanner so mobile units can monitor Ch9 and Ch19. Use of these channels by public safety agencies is ONLY to be utilized to talk TO civilians and not to be used to talk to each other or dispatch.

If you're interested in learning more about CB's And public safety communications, I recommend googling the history of the REACT group and Ch9 monitoring, as well as Harry Marnell's excellent history of LAPD and police communications from the 1920s here

I know that if a vehicle weighs a certain amount of pounds you have to have a CDL, however a volly FF thing might just make you take a few classes and drive the thing around in an empty field or parking lot.

The original question was regarding the California state law regarding the necessity of a CDL for Firefighters, as the topic moved out of the LA and state of California, I have moved it to this thread.

Let me address Taylors comment though, I don't know if you were being general or speaking about California or what your intent was, but let me clear up one thing here.

The rules regarding Commercial Drivers Licensure is governed by each individuals state Dept of Motor Vehicles and state Legislative bodies. California makes NO exception regarding paid career or volunteer firefighters regarding the CDL requirements. They must all pass the same DMV tests regardless of whether or not they are vollies.

Other states are much much more lenient and have blanket provisions that as long as you are a part of a Fire dept, you are granted an exception, others are much much more stringent and require a standard CDL with no Firefighter exception.

One thing to remember about Emergency services in the United States. Every single one of them is bound by federal regulations and standards such as OSHA and NFPA, State policies such as State Fire marshal regulations and rules, color of lights and types of sirens allowed, County policies, especially on EMS protocols, City policies, and then Department policies.

That is at least 5 different sets of regulations that each department will address in a different way, which is why we have such diversity in the Emergency Services compared to countries with just one body, one dept, one set of regulations, and one way of doing things.

A tiller only carries 7 people, just one more that the any other type of fire apparatus. and since the extra person is a driver, I doubt that hoppah will put an extra spot on the truck since you don't need drivers. And finally, though they can carry 7 people, most departments only staff them with six and then there's an empty seat in the crew portion of the cab.

Honestly, I can't even FATHOM that many people in a single rig. LAFD staffs their tillers with just 4, Captain II, Apparatus Operator, Top member and Tiller member. The Inside member tends to bounce between the Truck and 2 Car depending on the call and personal preference.

Inside of an LACoFD Quint, LAFD's trucks aren't much roomier:

With gear, maps, tools, and such in the back, 2 guys is definitely the best you're going to get.

So the RA heads to the scene but doesnt go C3 until the fire department gives the ok?

Not exactly. Actual responses will be detailed later.

You're thinking of Orange County

Heh, OC is a peculiar animal in and of itself, especially in regards to private ambulance contracts.

You know, I wrestled with it for a long time and eventually erased it, but one line I was going to throw out there was directly related to the OC departments: 'In some neighboring jurisdictions, departments have a long held policy that if you do not need them Code 3, then you must not need them at all"

Again, Mike, correct me if I'm wrong, but LAFD uses ProQA tiered dispatching. The information given by the caller dictates what resources respond, and whether they respond emergency or not. For example, a cardiac arrest will have all the resources respond emergency, whereas a fall might have the closest resource respond emergency and the transporting unit respond routine (non-emergency). That is just an example...I don't know how LAFD categorizes falls

LAFD does use a Medically Prioritized Dispatch System with 33 incident types, 6 determinants, and nine EMS Algorithm types. I'm not sure if it is ProQA or still card based, but it is very similar. I'll give a VERY VERY brief explanation later of call responses and types, since there is no way in hell I'll ever be able to condense what is an 8hr multiple day class into anything but just a surface glance.

So do they run lights and sirens n every call? or only in special cases (lapd,lafd,ect)

For LAFD, almost 99% of calls are an emergency response for at least the first unit. Example, Sick patient might have the closest available unit (Engine or Light Force) respond C3 to get on scene, verify the status of the patient is non-critcal, and the RA will respond non-emergency unless directed to change to C3. Additional units may be requested emergency or nonemergency depending on traffic and need.

For LAPD, they got rid of the Code-2 High calls, now its either Code 3 (lights and sirens) or Code 2, routine response. When they did that they went from 500 C3 calls to over 2500 per month in the Valley alone, 5 times as many calls.

^unless there are other engines on scene and there pumps arent run on that rig. In which case they engineer may fight the fire as well.

@mike, does it require alot of extra training to be a tillerman?

Will be answered in the truck section

^Im guessing the tillerman position atleast requires extra training atleast?

Anyways, this is kind of off topic but do the Firefighter Challenges Sponsored by Scott happen all over the country and generally draw alot of tourism if so? Reason I ask is apparently the past 5 years we have hosted the/a challenge here in Evansville. I went last year, but wasnt aware it happened in the past. Apparently the committee in charge is considering not bringing it in this year because of budget problems, but supposedly the firefighters are trying to find alternative ways to bring it to town because it draws alot of tourism and boost the local economy. Do you have a clue what I am talking about?

I'm not exactly sure what your question is, but the Scott challenge is always a big draw for the local area. Out here we have something similar known as the Western States Police and Fire Games which includes the Ultimate Firefighter Challenge. Tons of info on it on google, this year it was hosted by the LASD and LACoFD in Santa Clarita. Next year it'll be in Reno, NV

UPDATED 8/02/09: American Heroes Airshow 2009 (flickr only)

This is a huge update of 309 images from the American Heroes Airshow a couple of weeks back.

Included are photos from the

Downey Police Dept

Drug Enforcement Administration

Los Angeles CERT Team Booth

Los Angeles Mission College - AJ Program

Los Angeles County Fire Department - LACoFD Copter 19

Los Angeles County Fire Department - LACoFD Crew 9-2 and Fly Crew

Los Angeles County Fire Department - LACoFD Heavy Rescue 103

Los Angeles County Fire Department - LACoFD Rescue Tender 103

Los Angeles County Fire Department - LACoFD USAR 103 Gear

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI Agents

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI Bell 407 - N415AT

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI Evidence Response Team

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI Explosives Unit

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI Hazardous Material Response Unit

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI Mobile Command Center - Los Angeles Office

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI SWAT

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI SWAT MRAP Armored Vehicle

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI SWAT Truck

Federal Bureau of Investigation - FBI Underwater Search and Evidence Response Team

Los Angeles City Fire Department - Los Angeles City Fire Department Engine 98

Los Angeles City Fire Department - Los Angeles City Fire Department Red White and Blue Drop

Los Angeles County Department of Coroner - LACDOC Antelope Valley Truck

Los Angeles County Department of Coroner - LACDOC Crown Victorias

Los Angeles County Department of Coroner - LACDOC Special Operations Response Team

Los Angeles Police Department - LAPD Air Unit - N662PD

Los Angeles Police Department - LAPD Underwater Dive Unit

Los Angeles Police Department - LAPD Metro-SWAT Rescue 4

Los Angeles Police Department - LAPD Air Unit - Pilot and Observer

Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - LASD Air Rescue 5 Demo

Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - LASD A-Star - N960SD

Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - LASD Crown Vic

Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - LASD Malibu Search and Rescue

Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - LASD Montrose Search and Rescue

Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - LASD SUV

Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - LASD Van

United States Forest Service - Angeles National Forest - USFS ANF Engine 111

United States Forest Service - Angeles National Forest - USFS ANF Little Tujuna Hotshots C5A and C5B

United States Forest Service - Angeles National Forest - USFS ANF Patrol 14

Misc. Federal Agents

Misc. Flightline

Misc. Shots

Southern California Edison EC-135

United States Coast Guard MH60J Jayhawk

USMC AH-1W Cobra

USN UH-1 HAL-3 Restored

I just wanted to see where people "park" or put there Swat or F.B.I units in the normal freeplay map for the la mod, I usually park them in the gas station.

I don't. I just call them from off map since its more realistic that way. There are 21 LAPD stations, but SWAT is out of the Metropolitan division based at the Central Facilities Building, not out of a Police Station. FBI responses come from the Federal Building in the Wilshire district which is a pretty good distance from LAPD stations as well.

Thanks for the CDL clarification Mike. I'm not sure of the restrictions for the inner city departments, but I asked a firefighter at one of the volly stations across town and he said he wasnt sure how it worked but they were not required to have a CDL. There main engine only has 2 axles while the reserve is an old school(newly refurbished and looking quite good with out a yellow paint job) 1981 Duplex/Oshkosh/Pierce Pumper/Tanker - 1250gpm/2000gal but it does have 3 axels but perhaps it manages to stay under the weight limit?

Its a state regulation and some states don't require it, but its based on either axle OR gross vehicle weight here in California. It all depends on your states legislature and the agreements they have.

One thing to note.... and I know I'm opening up a can of worms here, but I just love little trivia like this....

The tillerman (man who rides in back and steers) is NOT considered a driver by law! He does not need a CDL and if, by his error, an accident occurs, it is the driver of the vehicle who will be cited and responsible. This is why there has to be a lot of trust and communications between the two positions.

Good Morning Foreros

I am new to the forum, come from Spain, that is, I am Spanish and I saw this forum and I loved it, apart from the great mod of which unfortunately will not let me install (after you ask)

The community seems very great, and helps to transit and good order

the problem to get the mod esque LA, remove it with win rar (giving extract here) in the mod folder (previously backup)

After I mod but the installer tells me that the pack is corrupted

help please, thanks

Pd: Sorry for my English is not very good

First, try upgrading your winrar to the latest version, that is the most common cause of this kind of error.

Second, if that doesn't solve your problem, re-download the mod and open with the latest version of winrar.

Thanks for clearing that up Mike. Its interesting to know. I never realized there was such a standard.

The rules and regulations governing the fire service and its standard operating procedures are vast beyond the common knowledge of the general public at large. From NFPA "guidelines" to Fed and State OSHA Requirements, state regulations and dept SOP's, everything is a lot more then it truly seems and every action, while seemingly strange to outsiders, is done with safety and the best interest of the general public in mind. From two in/two out, the size and color of striping on the sides of ambulances, regulations regarding lighting (KKK and NFPA), nothing is just done willy nilly!

so the fire truck driver is not a firefighter?? i thought a firefighter drove truck there with lights and stuff and then helped put out the fire? is this not the case?

As answered, all ratings and rankings will be explained later. This is not as simple as the answers posted make it out to be

Mike does LA require a CDL to drive the major apertures(engines,quints,etc,obviously any one can drive something like the HES).?

California has a special classification of a Restricted Class A or Class B Fire Fighter License that an apparatus operator must obtain before being able to operate any vehicle over 26,000 lbs and 3 axles.

oh ! 630 pages for your flickr Gallery^^

i'll take a day to look all ^^

This Is very nice photos

emergency-fan

Thanks! And hahaha, don't forget that I only have 11k pics on the flickr site, there are over 18,249 on the main site, and another 30+k on the old site.

I know, but it's not listed on the up and coming.. Oh well.

Good work Mike for everything else though! Looks like you put a lot of effort into it.

Only the LAFD is listed right now, none of the assisting agencies are. Eventually it should include AT LEAST the following:

# LAFD LACoPD  CDF/CALFIRE

# LAPD  LASD  CHP

# LAWA PD  LACoFD  State Parks

# Port of LA  Coroner  Fish & Game

# LAUSD PD  EMSA  OES/CALEMA

# LA GSD Police  Animal Care and Control

# City Lifeguards  County Lifeguards

# DWP CalTrans

# DOT

# Parking & Traffic Enforcement

# OPG

# Parks & Rec

# USFS

Mike, i have a question. no doubt that they run the Federal Q2b's, but i was reading a while back that they ran Code 3 Screaming Eagle Mechanical Sirens?. are they going back to the old Faithful Q2B, or? just curious to what they really run. Code 3 used to have it posted that all the LA rigs ran their Screaming Eagle.

i correct myself, They are Now Produced by Electro-Mechanical Siren Co.

Code 3 never manufactured them, but because they didn't have a product of their own, they offered the Screaming Eagle as part of their NFPA packages. I wish i knew where you read what you did so I could see it for myself, but suffice to say, the fact is that the LAFD has *NEVER* used the screaming eagle product. For a very short while they utilized a mix of FedSig Q2B's and Timberwolves, but the Timberwolves were dropped in favor of EQ2B's and Q2Bs since at least the 2006 purchases.

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Finished the Reserve apparatus section as well as added a brief blurb on the LAFD