MarkDillen

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http://en.wikipedia....British_victims

http://www.guardian....endly-fire-iraq

I've been searching for friendly fire from British against americans but can't find any??

This was a quote from the second world war but low and behold still relevant today.

"When the British shoot, the Germans duck, when the Germans shoot, the British duck, when the Americans shoot, everybody ducks....."

I like how you only showed part 2 of that video, and failed to include part 1 which explains that situation better.

Part 1

Yes, it was terrible, and probably could have been avoided. If you even bothered watching part 1, it was clearly the result of a miscommunication. They were informed that there were absolutely NO friendly forces in that area which turned out to note be true, and they were both talking about different targets.

You can do better? Go join the military and show 'em if you can do better.

I also like how mentioned only those American ones. I'm pretty sure if I wanted to look up some incidents such as those taking place in other countries/forces I'd be able to find quite a few, I don't really want to though because I am honestly not that interested, and I'm not dedicating my life to this topic. Accidents happen. Yes many could have been avoided, but they happen. You seem to be pretty one-sided on most of your arguments here....

i did include both parts thanks very much but it obviously didn't post but the link was included, they saw orange markings on the vehicle and still decided to fire, if in doubt leave it but that brings me back to your country shoot first don't apologise and don't answer any questions later, the 2 pilots should've been court martialed but your military said they didn't do anything wrong! We held an inquest into the death which found he was unlawfully killed but did your country allow them to be extridited here to face trial! No!

The Blues and Royals were serving as a force element of 16 Air Assault Brigade, providing an armoured reconnaissance capability to the Brigade. Four vehicles from D Squadron, two FV107 Scimitars and two FV103 Spartans, were moving North of the main force, patrolling the Forward Edge of Battle Area. The area of the patrol had been declared as a no engagement zone to the allied forces and the vehicles were marked with the agreed coalition Combat Identification markings including orange overhead canvas panels, thermal reflectors and Union Flags.

The U.S. Air Force conducted an investigation into the incident in 2003, but the results of that investigation were not publicly released, and did not result in a court-martial.^[6] Subsequent reporting of the U.S. Air Force investigation states that the investigation found fault with both pilots' actions in the incident, including, "findings of cognitive and physical task overload, ineffective communication and failure to recognise identification panels by the two pilots." The investigation report recommended administrative or disciplinary action against both pilots. Higher United States Department of Defense officials, however, cleared both pilots of any wrongdoing.^[7]

A British Army Board of Inquiry (BoI) was held in 2004, the findings of which, among others, stated that the Major authorised the Lt Colonel to attack, but no authorisation was given by controllers on the ground.^[1][8] The report was released to the family of L/CoH Hull and later to the public. It has been alleged that certain classified material available to the BoI, was withheld from the family.^[9]

• The pilots asked the Forward Air Controller ("Manila Hotel") if friendly forces were around the Iraqi vehicles — not to the west.
  
• Neither pilot gave the precise grid references for the Household Cavalry patrol to double check its identity.
  
• The pilots convinced themselves that the orange identification panels were in fact orange rocket launchers.
  
• POPOV36 decided to attack, saying he is “rolling in” without permission from the Forward Air Controller.
  
• POPOV35 asked for artillery to fire a marker round into the target area to clear up confusion, but POPOV36 attacked without waiting for it.
  
• POPOV36 strafed the column for a second time, but still doubted its identity.
  

The audio track includes debate around the identity of the targets and the order, from the FAC, to disengage identifying a likely "blue-on-blue" incident. The audio track also includes notification of one death and several injuries with the order to return to base.^[19] Subsequent audio indicates frustration and crying with the comment: "We're in jail, dude".^[20] Upon viewing the video, Matty Hull's widow, Susan, stated that the pilots were, "more concerned for themselves than their victims".^[21]

^{So next time your stupid country feeds you a bunch of lies try researching before opening your mouth.}

I hate the fact your country believe their above the law, they can kill our troops but can't take the punishment yet we have a guy called Gary Mckinnon who has asperger's syndrome that hacked into your military systems (It was the biggest hack ever).

Did he kill anyone! No, but he is still being extradited to your country.

Oh and for the record, the Marine Corps requires that ALL Marines, not just infantry, qualify on the rifle range at up to 500 yards (460m) with ironsights.

You sure are one arrogant prick for repeatedly calling out Americans for being so close minded.

call me a prick again you walking abortion, and who's the arrogant one, hell yeah we're american we rule the world woooo!

In the Tarnak Farm incident of April 18, 2002, four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight others injured when U.S. Air National Guard Major Harry Schmidt, dropped a laser-guided 500 lb (230 kg) bomb from his F-16 jet fighter on the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry regiment which was conducting a night firing exercise near Kandahar. Schmidt was charged with negligent manslaughter, aggravated assault, and dereliction of duty. He was found guilty of the latter charge. During testimony Schmidt blamed the incident on his use of "go pills" (authorized mild stimulants), combined with the 'fog of war'.^[70] The Canadian dead received US medals for "bravery", but no apology.

Pat Tillman, a former professional American football player, was shot and killed by American fire in April 22, 2004. An Army Special Operations Command investigation was conducted by Brigadier General Jones and the U.S. Department of Defense concluded that Pat Tillman's death was due to friendly fire aggravated by the intensity of the firefight. A more thorough investigation concluded that no hostile forces were involved in the firefight and that two allied groups fired on each other in confusion after a nearby explosive device was detonated.

Operation Medusa (2006): 1 - Two U.S. A-10 Thunderbolts accidentally strafed NATO forces in southern Afghanistan, killing Canadian Private Mark Anthony Graham.

On 5 December 2006, an F/A-18C on a Close Air Support mission in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, mistakenly attacked a trench where British Royal Marines were dug-in during a 10-hour battle with Taliban fighters, killing one Royal Marine.

Of two helicopters called in to support operations by the British Grenadier Guards and Afghan National Army forces in Helmand, the British Westland WAH-64 Apache engaged enemy forces, while the accompanying American AH-64D Apache opened fire on the Grenadiers and Afghan troops.

August 23, 2007: A USAFF-15 called in to support British ground forces in Afghanistan dropped a bomb on those forces. Three privates of the 1st Battalion, the Royal Anglian Regiment, were killed and two others were severely injured.

A U.S. Patriot missile shot down a British Panavia Tornado GR.4A of No. 13 Squadron RAF, killing the pilot and navigator.

For a country that supposedly has the best military technology in the world, you sure don't know how to use it.

Anyway, may catch flak from some UK users. but,

This is how the SEALS outdo a royal wedding.

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But hey!

The US isn't the strongest. Look at China, N Korea. Both are Militarized, and can kick our @$$es in a JUST INFANTRY war. The US only can win with the USAF, USN. US with Navy/Air Force = Win. US with no navy/AF = Epic loss.

How 'bout them Chevys?

US guys! How about SOPA/PIPA? -_-

oh dear,

You resorted to using the death of osama as a retaliation.

What you fail to realise, is that america knew where he was 3-4 years before his death and they just sat on their thumbs. Or maybe your beloved seals got lost and spent the 3-4 years looking for him.

And Jimmykid... You had 2 beaches so you automatically won the second world war, after showing up 2 years after it started. First world war started 1914 and america joined in 1 year before it finished, and yet you still claim that you won them. Also if your inept military had noticed the invasion force heading towards pearl harbour ( see how I spell harbour correctly) then as a country you would have stayed neutral.

Funny how the two biggest attacks on US soil were missed by your military and intelligence until it was too late.

usmc123

yes the British army is taught to conserve ammo, remember up until 1985 we still used single shot weapons. The L1A1 SLR. Which had a longer range than your supposed 10 feet (rofl). But thanks for the nod, yes England does train their rifleman to fire at ranges of up to 300 metres, which means when they fire they actually hit the target. I believe the us marines like to keep their enemy at such a distance (longer than arms length) that they can't identify whether or not it's an enemy that's firing at them or friendly fire. Hence why Britain have a far more accurate infantry rifle than the US.

Hmmm american police are taught to shoot more rounds because all of your officers use guns.

British police are taught to use lethal force as a last resort.

In what world do you live where you think it takes more than 3 rounds to incapacitate or kill a person, even 1 well placed round will kill a person, as when a bullet hits the body it doesn't always go straight through (like the movies you watch). I know a guy who got shot in the chest and the bullet exited through his wrist.

And back to topic

We don't hate you. It might seem like it, but it's not the case when you peek behind the curtain.

However, what spoils the mix can essentially be explained as the right wing element of your country. By 'right wing' I mean the xenophobic, insular, ignorant, arrogant, bigotted part of the American population.

It appears that a great many of your people are being duped and either can't see it, or don't want to see it. You are largely all under the spell of Fox News and are being fed outrageous propaganda. But the mechanics are there for you to educate yourselves and discover the truth, but because of your natural insularity and refusal to show any interest in the outside world, you are spinning down into an ever deepening well of propaganda.

Basically, you are being fed simple treats to keep you all happy and are having propaganda whispered in your ear.

Trust me, we are equally fascinated by your culture, that's why it sells so well over here.

And I wouldn't say america has the best army in the world, they're undisciplined and they're answer to 1 person shooting at them is to obliterate an entire square mile with a ton of ordanance.

The majority of the time their army call in the air force and even then they can't hit the right target.

Your army is taught it is ok to fire 100 rounds to kill 1 enemy ours are taught a maximum of 3 rounds per enemy. I'm surprised you haven't recruited 4 year olds into war as they have the same attitude when it comes to firing a weapon (spray and pray)

Yeah I do...I fail to see how that is an unreasonable argument. We have the strongest military in the world with a nuclear arsenal stronger than any other planet, do you not understand how that makes our country powerful. We have tremendous debt but our economy still produces more than any other country in the world.

I'm arguing about power not morality. Our country loves war, that's why we have a massive military. Every single conflict we involve ourselves in is a powerplay, we install puppet governments all across the world. We have been doing this for a 100 years now. Across the globe are dictators or rulers installed by American backed coups or revolutions. I'm not saying America is a great country in the aspect of morality, but in the aspect of power? Nobody comes close. We have bases and military installations across the globe, our navy is the largest and most advanced in the world, our nation effectively controls the world's oceans. No other country can match the scope of American power right now. It's an empire we have established, sustainable given our current economic situation? Probably not, but right now our country is arrogant for a reason. We are the most powerful, the most righteous? Hardly. We actively seek out trouble because our country is power hungry, we involve ourselves across the globe militarily to maintain control. The United States doesn't send off it's kids to get killed just for the hell of it, the politicians do it to maintain American global supremacy. It's fucked up and it is disturbing but that's the way it is.

Honestly, the comment about the Taliban urination video was retarded. War is war, it hasn't changed. I don't understand how people have such a problem with the desecration of bodies when two groups of people are actively trying to take each others life by deadly means. War is ugly and our media doesn't sugar coat it quite as much any more as it did in Korea and the wars past where everything was looked at with positivity and glory. The Taliban aren't even trying to destroy our country, they just want us out of their country and they want control. In all liklihood we can probably reach a compromise with the Taliban when they experience enough bloodshed and allow them to have some control in exchange for some US control. Al-Qaeda are the ones who want America to fall and they have to be killed to be stopped. They are two different entities. Not that I expect you to understand because apparently your arguments are based around sensational journalism rather than the facts.

I'm not trying to glorify my country, because I think we have some serious moral problems. But to argue that the United States isn't powerful is just being ignorant.

Ha that's rich you saying I based my arguments on what I read in the paper rather than facts. So where did you get your supposed facts from, bottom line is america is and will never be the most powerful country in the world, Russia has already proved that.

Your military personell including reservists total to just under 3 million. And Russia has 22 million, not to mention their nuclear arsenal.

Good luck with your world domination attitude.

usmc123... You really know how to sell your country don't you! I mean you start off well and then comes the america are number 1 at this at that and at everything else, and the comment raised about destroying the world seven times over, is true in the sense that I believe america will destroy earth as their attitude, is shoot first ask questions later.

Your marines or army have been in the news recently for pissing on the dead bodies of taliban soldiers.

And you really have to ask why the world rolls their eyes back when they here america is the best!

Fair enough killing them if they were trying to kill you but desecrating their bodies ain't gonna do any favours for america. With that picture your country has given the taliban another reason why they will not surrender and have made it their mission to destroy your country.

America seems to actively seek out trouble...Not one decade since the 50's has america not been involved in some war or conflict. These wars have nothing to do with invasion of your own country but simply to throw your weight around and in a few cases you went running with your tail between your legs.

excellent work guys, have been watching this mod for a few weeks now and can't wait, Lots of respect for all your hard work.

Read the comment. I didn't say we specifically invented the internet as we now know it. I know that the World Wide Web was invented at CERN. What I said was the first ancestor of the internet. The first networks/data transfers happened decades before the World Wide Web was even thought of and it was in American universities and research facilities.

Might I also ask from which part of the deepest fathoms of your posterior did you pull that ridiculous 'statistic' out of? 9 out of 10 inventions are rip offs from other countries? Really now? Find support for that statement. I dare you. The fact is, and no one can deny it, without the technological innovation and driving force of America and other countries like even Nazi Germany (No, I'm not saying I support them. I'm saying they were decades ahead of any other country at the time), you would not be living life as you do now.

http://www.mainstree...pple-steve-jobs

http://www.realclear...ut_america.html

http://www.noozhawk....ithout_america/

Those are all American right there. While I agree America has fallen off the top in recent years, name one other country that has influenced the world so much in such a small time span.

I for one plan to continue our technological drives by earning a BS in both Physics and Alternative Energy Chemistry as well as Masters and Ph. D's in Astrophysics and Astronomy (and possibly an alternative to one being Cosmology), not to mention having a strong structural engineering/architectural background to go along with those.

Haha Steve Jobs, great invention there. The only thing he invented was how to make millions of gullible people part with their money twice or more a year by releasing the same product but in a different casing.

http://uncyclopedia...._Did_Not_Invent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner

does the flag remind you of something lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

Well, I think of it this way. If a certain special forces team didn't kill a certain terrorist, what could happen? Who supplied 575,000 troops in the Gulf War?

Not trying to be self-centered, but without the US, what would the world be like?

Who met with aliens at Area 51?

A much more peacful world after all you must of done something right to piss off osama, remember you wouldn't have had to kill him if you hadn't of pissed him off in the first place. And as for the gulf war, you really think it was to stop kuwait being invaded! Everyone knows (apart from Americans like yourself) that the 1st and 2nd gulf war was and always will be about oil.

(I don't care if this offends some people. Just don't click on it if you don't want to see it. Simple 'nuff?)

Honestly, whenever I think of the US I think of all the Britfags, Eurofags, Trolls, and other idiots on YT who demonstrate they know nothing of the world and have nothing better to do than constantly harp on America for being fat (even though the UK isn't incredibly far behind in the fat scale) and think that everyone here is an unintelligent hick (which I might almost give them, though I could say the same about a LOT of Europe as well, having been there quite a bit and even being a European citizen).

I just wish more people would realize how much more the world would suck without the US and what we've done for technology (hell, you wouldn't be reading this without the US having invented the first ancestor of the internet), ideas, culture, etc. and would also know that we may be greedy, selfish, and arrogant (who isn't) but we are also the most giving country in the world. In fact, the only country that even comes close to the amount of foreign aid we give is Saudi Arabia and they aren't even close (something like $500 million vs. almost $3 billion).

Really hate to piss on your parade but you did ask for this.... I think you'll find the world wide web was invented by a British person and the majority of your countries inventions are 9 times out of 10 rip offs of other countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee