Firstyminator

No virus in the LA Mod, and i have used all of them since the first version..

Check your Video Card Fan...

Smooth Thank you Hoppah!

Hello, i have a problem with the Los Angeles Mod for EM 4. When i play the cars starts to become colorful (sometimes happens with the building too!!) and the emergency personal like firefighters and police officers become transparent. Do you have a answer for me? ( the only choice is to change ghraphical settings every 5-6 minutes ) And if i set " floor shadows on, the floor became black and the cars too.

Hoppah, I think you're a genius! Exellent mod!

Sounds like your graphic card or cpu is overheating.. Have you checked the Temp of the card and Cpu? if not, it might be the Antialias settings of your graphic card.

I noticed the same here. Something additional that I noticed (not sure if it is related): when the traffic is backed up and ambulances are trying to reach the hospital; they seem to get stuck on the parking lot between the "Wallmart" and the "Liquor store". Curious thing is that the ambulances not only seem to get stuck there, the PM with stretchers get out of the car and walk to the hospital...... (I'll try to add a picture later). This happened a few times now, so it seems to be a recurrent problem. Anyone else noticed the same?

It made me curious about paths and streets in the map. I was googling and using the search here, but I couldn't find a proper tutorial or explanation about it. Anyone here who can help me getting familiar with paths/streets and how to use/troubleshoot them?

I've had the same probo myself... Ambu's get stuck on the parking lot, and sometimes in the fire station. Have to get all the Ambu's out of the firehouse and park them again. Not a biggie.. but anyways..

Still, there are some stuck Vehicles, seems like the FBI suv and a black car get stuck often on the maps edges.. cars that get stuck there can't be shot, removed or redirected.. and does not take damage.. strange thing..

There are some problems with vehicle wrecks.. my game crashes at some points when i remove wrecks, or when they become wrecked ( car accident, or explosion ) .. the game drops to desktop. hmm

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Than you for this great Christmas gift Hoppah Downloading now! Merry Xmas and a happy New year =) Great work!

it's working better right now,but i'm getting slowdowns when i select multiple units, anyway it's not that anoying to play now, great mod by the way . Thanks for your help .

I'm glad it worked for you! Hopefully you will find a solution to your new problem as well.

I notice that not everyone here is eager to help, even though we are in a Bugs section of the forum Hopefully they will find the path.....

Edit by: pyrothijs - Why don't you leave telling people how to behave on the forum to the forum staff, thank you very much

Not meaning to step on anybodys toes, just feel like there is no constructive coming out of the guy right here. Just stating my opinion. But again, i'm sorry.

Hmm.. very strange.. try to reinstall the game and install the mod again... Seems like the scripts aren't loading correctly..

I tryed to do the affinity thing, after installing the dual core optimizer, but when i try to do so, an error diag comes up " operation could not be completed, access denied." oh by the way what you sent me was a amd power monitor not the dual core optimizer ¬¬ wich i'm downloading now.

Edit: Problem solved, you have to install amd dual core optimizer and THEN set the cpus affinity, it runs well now, but there's something else, when i select a unit, the "buttons for doing stuff" does not show up, so i can't do anything haha.

Anyway, thanks firstlyminator, that dual core optimizer thing makes everything run better.

Anytime!

Sorry for the link though. Very good that you sorted it out Must have been the Driver/optimizer unlocking the ability to set affinity.

Well, the buttons problem i guess i've never had.. hehe Sounds weird, Hoppah must be the rescue

True Rodart But standard EM4 does not use as much CPU as when the mods models are loaded. My standard EM4, and other small mods worked fine, but when i loaded LA Mod, or Winterberg mod, the game was awfully slow when selecting units.

But, it could be many things.. if you tried the tips i gave you and they did not work, well.. i dont really know It worked for me that time when i had the exact same problem

Try to update DirectX, Sound drivers, Bink Video player.. ( i think Emergency 4 uses this player/plugin, Some icon shows in the taskbar when starting the game.. ) .. just to try all ..

HDDS dont care about defrags? Unless your running SSDs, thats not ture. defrag hurts SSD but is best run about once a week or so on your main hard drive, and any hard drive for that matter.

“Fragmentation occurs when the operating system cannot or will not allocate enough contigous space to store a complete file as a unit, but instead puts parts of it in gaps between other files (usually those gaps exist because they formerly held a file that the operating system has subsequently deleted or because the operating system allocated excess space for the file in the first place"

To Defrag or not to defrag tutorial

I guess almost all people run NTFS system disk nowadays? NTFS is not fragmenting files the way FAT disks did, if you have more than enough space that is

And still, never experienced any Major decrease in Cpu or memory usage in games, only in benchmarks.. but of course, every computer is different, just have to give it a try, and hopefully you will find the source of the lag It could be the Units script files that are placed in a cluster that is fragmented, so try defrag. I myself tried that when i had that kind of lag, only thing that helped for me was to install the Optimizer, and change affinity. Helped instantly!

As for running multiple security suites, i never said run them at the same time, but even then if you know what your doing you can easily run 2 at once. I meant Nod42 as a primary scanner and Malwarebytes as a back up.

Of course, if you run a Proper antivirus fulltime, and for example the Windows Defender as a time-to-time scanner.. then you should be safe.. But if you install several Antivirus-software suites they will try to use same system files, whitch will then affect the protection from viruses.

Avast is good...for a free anti virus, its nothing compared to Nod32,Kaspersky,or even Comodo Anti Virus. Comodo Security Suite is free, and actually the best security software available right now, or atleast a top 3 as things change but Comodo is consistently a top 3 among both paid and freeware anti virus solutions. Nod32 has only given me trouble with one software, DVD Rebuilder Pro/Cinema Craft Encoder SP2 which its doubtful anyone here runs, or very very few at the least.

I've never tried the Free version of the Antivirus, but i guess it uses to some point the same virus database and scanner functions as the Fullversion, therefore i never had any kind of viruses. Only weakness it has is that it does not find hidden rootkits.. and i have a habit of getting them

Oh and as for the AMD app, I still dont think there is a need. Maybe on older AMD Dual Cores, but not there current ones, but then again Intel makes a much better chip atm so go figure.

Yes, older AMD Dual Cores, especially the X64 cores needed this to work correctly on some systems, therefore the patch... logically

BUT, back to Topic.

And i Still hope that he finds the solution to this problem, as several people have this issue with the mod. But if Hoppah designed the mod on his Dual Core, well - at least thats not the problem if you have a new Dual Core

That was rude? Its a legitimate question. People never run a defrag and wonder why after a year of use there pc runs like crap. Because the datas spread all over the hdd making the hard drive work much harder to find needles in a haystack worth of data. People run a POS antivrius like Norton or Mcaffe and wonder why there pc runs like crap. Well first of all the programs are bloated, and secondly there protection is worthless. I can pretty much guarantee any one running an anti virus like mentioned above, would find many viruses in there PC if they bothered to scan with Malwarebytes or Nod32. Then again with the lack luster security they had they most likley need to resort to something like F-Secure Rescue CD. This is designed to boot up under linux and scan you hard drive so windows doesnt load, preventing viruses from loading at the start of windows and becoming embedded in the OS.

Well, to be honest i think that computers nowadays running high speed HDD's don't really care about defrags, do them once in a while, and you're good. unless of course you install everything directly into C:\ and have an old IBM hdd

But yes, people often run Free antivirus, which imo is just a gate to viruses. And often several of these running at the same time.. Several antivirus softwares and antimalware does not mean LESS viruses.. it simply means several softwares trying to use the same system files, which ends in none of them actually working and then rather than protecting the system, slows it down.. People, use One antivirus software. And my personal best antivirus is Avast Antivirus, works great in games, no scanning of every file when starting a game / app, and no lag.

Oh and I wouldnt trust the app, unless it was made by AMD, and even the I deal with computer building on a daily basis and never heard any one mention that app.

And the APP i mentioned is by AMD supporters and its verified by AMD, it was releases right after the AMD Dual Core driver by AMD, and fixed several bugs regarding the Driver that AMD did not have the time/cared to fix. The old Dual Core was not fully equipped with threading support, like the new ones, and Intel's.

And here is the official link.. So don't be frightened Xplorer4x4

http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/dynamicDet...&ItemID=153

But back on topic!...

Rodart

Hope you find your source of problem. Not really easy to find out whats causing this, when you run other mods fine.. But only suggestion i have is that LA Mod have some really detailed models compared to other mods, it might be the problem.

wow not enought memory or cpu, are you suggesting that this mod needs more memory and cpu than gta iv? wich runs fine by the way. I tryed a few other mods and they work fine.

Sorry, my bad But AMD Processors ( some dual cores ) do have issues with multi threading in some games ( and GTA IV fully supports all types of multi threading, something EM4 does not ).. not all. But of course, it might be some other issue Better speak with hoppah.

I find it hard to believe my Core 2 Quad Q9300 overclocked to 3.4 GHz, 4 GB of RAM, and an overclocked GTX 260 is having problems playing the game.

Core 2 Quad is Intel and not AMD dual core

Hence, no problem.

Aii, too bad

I had the same problem too, untill i just bought a new computer with Intel processor. i had the same Dual Core too

To me it seems like the game slows down when there is not enough memory or cpu to load the selected unit's models and scripts.. i always got this problem when selecting two cops for example getting cones or fire equipment.

Do you know how to properly maintain a PC? Virus scans,and defrag for starters?

Don't be rude.

"If your topic is not Los Angeles mod related, don't even think about posting here but post where you should!

Posting a topic here that is not Los Angeles mod related will be deleted without notice."

yes i do, i don't have any problems with other games, just this mod.

And i think this can be because of the massive models LA mod uses, and the AMD dual core processors. Might try these two steps :

Install this .. http://www.techspot.com/downloads/3116-amd...-optimizer.html

And do this : .. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-...11-6168870.html

i have BitDefender but it wasnt installed Sunday

@Firstyminator: fail. i read the installer word for word and even read the license agreement even though most are overworded legal BS that doesnt really mean anything

Then i guess you should try to look at other possibilities.. because the installer works perfectly in both Win XP Home, Professional (32/64 bit) and Win 7 Home/Ultimate/Enterprise (32/64 bit)

In Win 7, sometimes you have to run the installer as Administrator, or add compatibility for Windows XP SP3. But, i did not have to do that. But i've heard people had to.

Sigh... sometimes i guess people just are not allowed to be using a computer.. God forbid if they had to read install manuals..

And one little more tip-of-the-trade

If you feel the game runs slowly, and you are running a AMD Dual-Core CPU.. Then do this to fix it

Open the Task Manager ( CTRL-ALT-DEL ) Right click on the EM4.exe \ EM4deluxe.exe .. And choose "Set Affinity"

Then unhook one of the CPU's that are assigned to the game. So that only ONE CPU remains hooked out.

This will focus only one CPU part to the game, and this will fix alot of "slowliness"

Just buy another Fire chief.. and assign him to Hotkey 1.. then you can use him to spawn the units you need

I always park some police cars around town on standby so they are available... and have two or three patrolling.. no more traffic problems as long as i dont redirect in any way..

Concerning the traffic jams, do not redirect traffic and your problems are over. Do not let cops patrol the streets let them rest at the police station and assign them to a number that works much quicker.

Thats true... And started not redirecting... makes my gameplay a bit weird.. but it works

By now, it's the only thing to do But still, i rather restart the game when this happens... because the traffic jam gets so out of control.. that it would be an endless mission to clear it

seems pretty strange.. does that only apply to the cars shown on the picture ? Because other cars seems to work fine... but i don't know... but the times the traffic chaos start, it's often because of these cars..

But you might add the possibility to transport them away with a tow truck ? Like for example in Winterberg Mod, when you can transport away cars even with persons inside

Oh and the new rapid deploy does not work on the brush truck. FF unhooks and stands there.

That is also true. Don't know why.. but at several other occations this happens to other fire engines as well. not only the brush truck.. Seems like it depende on the position they are on the map.

But this traffic redirecting problem is a real bugger. Can't seem to put my finger on where the problem occurs.. and why..

Hehe.. thats an idea... but recently the whole map was filled with cars.. so it would take too much time And still... when destroying cars.. it will only make the car line longer